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Phonetics

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Hello! I've been having a lot of trouble trying to find any good Danish pronunciation/phonetics guides. Could anyone share some good resources covering that? I would greatly appreciate any links to youtube videos or web pages :) Thanks in advance.

PS I'd rather use some more serious materials with IPA, because my lack of tolerance for "bawn-ZHOOR" transcriptions is so deep I wouldn't be reponsible for my actions, really (besides, they are usually no help at all).

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/varigby
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Two I've found very helpful are this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Danish

And, this link from the Danish Duo team: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UmFv7T2p68

The Danish man in the youtube videos might use less IPA than you would like, but he gives examples from British English, German and French.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gerardd88
Gerardd88
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Thank you for your answer. I know wiki IPA for... pages and they are great (also ... phonetics pages are good) but I'm looking for something else, more like a general introduction, because IPA is sometimes only an approximation.

I've watched the pronuncation course on that channel but it didn't help much, although I managed to put up with those [Aw]s and [Oo]s. But this course is just bad. He only says about a part of sounds there are in the language, and even the ones he mention are hardly explained at all. The explanation of some general spelling rules is tragic and chaotic if one can say it exists at all. And maybe it will be better if I don't comment, when he said that e (also German e and French é) "is roughly the same as i in "the Internet". But I agree that the fact he mentioned those German and French counterparts helped at least a bit. Sorry if I it sounds too curt or anything but I wanted to explain why it was bad in my opinion, rather than simply smearing it without any arguments.

2 years ago

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No problem at all. Sorry I couldn't be more of more help. I think you should look for Danish phonology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_phonology and detailed transcriptions --but they can be difficult to read and understand unless you're already fluent.

What do you find the hardest part? Is it the extensive use of glottal stops? Or just that the spelling and pronunciation don't seem to match up like in Spanish? At least it's not as bad as English!

One problem is: (from the Wikipedia page above) "The vowel system is unstable......the following vowel pairs may be merged:

[eː] with [ɛː] [e] with [ɛ] [ɛː] with [æː] [øː] with [œː] [ø] with [œ] [oː] with [ɔː] [o] with [ɔ]

Listening to the TTS on the course and you can hear this. So, any description of the sound system from a book written only 10-20 ago might be out of date.

2 years ago

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Thanks again. I can't really say I've had any problems with Danish pronuncation. I must admit it's mostly because I don't study it in depth actually, only doing the Danish Duolingo to get to know this language, get a grasp of it. So I don't have much time for learning it, really. Also, I haven't tried to speak it often. Previously, with some such languages I've been only doing Duolingo, but now I want to learn to hear and speak it better than deducing from TTS pronuncation and saying some random sounds, not knowing how to produce them. That's why I scheduled some time for those current Duolingo languages, just to work on the phonetics.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/viktorbluhme

If you look up a word in Den Danske Ordbog you will see the pronunciation written in a simplified form of IPA, as well as a recording of the word.

2 years ago