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Why did duolingo stop developing Words? It was very useful for memorizing words. Almost like flashcards.

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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What do you mean by "stop developing Words"?
I still have it for the language that had it before and it's still added to new courses that can have to it (see here which ones).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WildSage
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Words are available for every language on duo, they just haven't added a tab for some of them. I really don't see why they haven't since we can already access them.

On your browser open a tab for a language that has Words. Then open a second tab and go to Swedish. Then go back to the first tab and click on Words.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sustained
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Because they're obsessed with A/B testing every last possible tiny little thing and think that is the one true path of development or something when in actual fact it's been proven to be a fairly crappy methodology, at least as far as I know. It basically ensures that the majority of development time is spent on things that never even make it into the product, just because, according to the holy tests, A is better than B, or whatever but actually in the real world it's not quite so simple.

I imagine that they ran some kind of test for Words tab versus no Words tab and decided that due to statistics, we don't need the Words tab.

But then ask any user and they will probably all agree that having a Words tab is better than not having a Words tab. It's not like they're lazy, they've built a pretty great thing. So what the hell is the problem? The data is already there, even the code is mostly already there as other languages have Words tabs!

I think they're insane, personally.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnauti
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You can get them for every language either by using the trick WildSage describes, or by installing some user script in your browser (search the forums for those). However the data isn't good so it's not as useful as it could have been.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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I'm not sure where the trick and even less the script stand in regards with the update of the Guidelines:

If you are [..] sharing information and instructions about using Duolingo in a way that may impact the system, community, learning, data or experience in a [...] significant manner, your account and posts may be removed.

If Duo didn't make the things directly working (which wouldn't be hard given how the "trick" works) it's that they don't want (for their own reasons) to (officially) have it. And tricking to having it is imacting in a significant manner the experience...

Note: Not saying Duo will go against dong it, just that I don't know if they will or not...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnauti
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I think they added that in response to the occasions of cheating and the obviously harmful things that have been going on [which I can't describe explicitly because that might inspire someone], but as with all kinds of laws and rules I guess we'll have to wait and see how they're going to apply it.
Using a script to easily switch between languages obviously significantly impacts my experience too, but I sure hope they won't ban that.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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For sure, but here (contrarily to the Switch script) it can be in a negative way for them: since there is no platform to follow/monitor them, all this use may be being "off-radar" for them. Then making having a negative impact on them with potential copyrights infringement there without having the adequate platform to monitor (they can access case by case from the database, but not easy and giving more job to them).

In any case, indeed we have to "wait and see". But personally I'll not promote, encourage such tricks/uses that Duo seems obviously to avoid (otherwise, it'd be technically more than easy for them to open Immersion to more courses).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnauti
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Personally I doubt they'll see this as a bad thing, but who knows.

A propos of immersion, I'm not really up to date with what's going on in the general forums. Last time I checked I got the impression Duo didn't mind people using the Immersion workaround. Maybe you have more recent information – have they said anything against it now? I mean the one where people can upload their own articles and translate languages that don't have immersion, like in this topic https://www.duolingo.com/comment/14666316

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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I think they stayed away from making any statement about them, they didn't want to have to take a decision. ;)

2 years ago