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"Die Jungen essen Äpfel."

Translation:The boys eat apples.

January 22, 2013



Is there anyway to tell the difference between Apfel and Äpfel in oral speech? seems kind of redundant to me.


"Apfel" sounds like "up"+"fell" and "Äpfel" sounds like "app" (from application, or Epson) + "fell"


No they don't, "Apfel" sounds like "Ap"+"Fell" and "Äpfel" sounds like "ep" and "Fell".


Actually, this argument is pretty unnecessary. Scroll up and click on the speaker and you can hear that it is 'Epfell'


Duolingo uses /ˈɛpfəl/.


Woah, ok. I've re-read this entire thing. It's my fault, by having relatively similar colour schemes, I got you mixed up with 'Cheesy Fighter' who did say that it was pronounced like our English 'A'. There's the confusion, I was correcting him, not you. I'm sorry.


I see what that says, but it's wrong. Look further down their page on the Umlaut itself ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%84 ) and it clearly says it is pronounced as an 'E'. This is a good example of Wikipedia both contradicting itself, and being wrong. But forgetting about technology, listen to any German speak, you will hear it pronounced as an 'e'.


How's it wrong? /'epfəl/ is just an alternative pronunciation. By the way, I'm a native speaker of German.


It won't let me reply to your last comment, as the thread is too long. So, you seem to be a native speaker of a few languages going by your levels :) - but anyway, what I will now say is, if the umlaut is pronounced 'A' still (as you say), then are you saying that the link I posted is wrong, as it says that it is pronounced 'e'. Because if you are native, ( I'm not) I know people who are, and would agree that Äpfel is pronounced Epfell, then maybe there's regional variation in Germany? I'm adamant that it is, so I'm interested to know why you say differently, if that means were both right somehow.


if the umlaut is pronounced 'A' still (as you say)

I didn't say that.

The standard pronunciation of "Äpfel" is /ˈɛpfəl/. /ˈepfəl/ is a regional variation. It's not common to pronounce the short "ä" (standard pronunciation /ɛ/) as /e/, but it is relatively common to pronounce the long "ä" (standard pronunciation: /ɛː/) as /eː/. Note that the Wiktionary page only gives an English approximation, not an exact equivalent. I'm using the IPA because it's unambiguous.

This is what /ɛ/ sounds like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_front_unrounded_vowel

This what /e/ sounds like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-mid_front_unrounded_vowel


"A" and "Ä" are completely different sounds.



Yes, the singular for Apfel has NO umlaut over the A and is pronounced ah-p ful. The plural for Äpfel has the umlaut over the Ä and is pronounced ap-ful.


The word "Junge" is masculine, so, why is it that when we get the plural form of it, it becomes "Jungen" not "Junger"?


I believe that's what we would call an excepetion


when something is plural it is automatically made feminine.


This is incorrect; when a noun become plural, the definite article is the same as the feminine article, but the noun's gender does not change.


Without articles, how do you know if its plural or singular?


Wait so does Jungs mean boys or does Jungen mean boys


It both means boys.


I thought Jungen was masculine. But here they use Die, which I thought is supposed to be feminine.. Hilfe bitte!!


plurals are always written with 'die' in the nominativ case


So are plurals of words always spelled with the "-en" ?


No. Read the description in this lesson to get a general idea of how to form plurals.


When to use essen and isst in plural ?


You never use isst with a plural noun. Isst is used for singular nouns or er/sie/es.


Äpfel is masculine right? Why use die not der?


Because it is the plural form of 'Apfel'. All plurals use the article 'die' in the nominative case.


I'm confused of the die/der/das words...when do I use each one? Does it show gender?


Someone else's comment helped me! Lol didn't see it before!


When do I use essen and when do I use isst?

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