Has anybody else noticed this?
It could just be me, but I've noticed that I seem to do really well using the app; I can read the words I've learnt with ease and can write sentences in Italian. But, if somebody asks me what something means in Italian when I'm not using the app I find it really difficult to recall the word/phrase :-( So, I can recognise the words when I read them but I find it much harder to recall them verbally without seeing them :( Has anybody else struggled with this and how do you overcome it? Thank youuu! xox
Read it out loud as you do it. It's the fastest way to learn it. You MUST speak it. I hold long long looong conversations with my cousins in Italy and I didn't know a single work of Italian 8 months ago. I read EVERYTHING out loud as I do it.
I so agree! I'm only Level 7 at the moment of me writing this, but speaking out loud has helped a lot! I feel more confident and some Italian words almost "slip out" in every day English conversation. Don't feel strange or awkward about practicing in public either. I often go to a coffee shop to practice via my phone and felt a little awkward doing it at first but then thought, hey, if I saw someone speaking Italian in a coffee shop, I'd think they're pretty cool. Now its a fun activity to do on my down time! :)
Indeed. I also have the same issues - reading fluency but speaking I freeze up. I think it's just something about how our brains are wired. I also think DL doesn't really give you much spoken practice so that side of the equation gets neglected here a bit.
I am hoping fluency comes with practice and time.
Speaking from experience, I would say it comes not just from practice and time but also from having the nerve to try without worrying if you are getting it right, people will help you if you get it wrong. It takes time to build up both confidence and fluency but the first step is to hold your nose and jump knowing that you will make a lot of mistakes but that they are how you learn. ......... It also gets easier with time you'll be glad to know. :-)
Yeah, it's frustrating! I try and teach my family words that I've learnt, to help me remember but they just get annoyed at me haha
I have been narrating things I do and sometimes talking Italian (well, partial Italian) to an imaginary friend when doing regular stuff in the house. For example when I'm cooking and can't find the oil I'll say "dov'e e l'olio? e qui. chi ha messo lì?"
When I'm doing this, I try my best at the grammar, but i'm more interested in remembering general sentence structures and vocabulary. And just getting used to talking out loud.
But then, I live alone, so nobody realizes how crazy I must look :-)
I do that as well - I have conversations out loud in imaginary situations that I might face abroad.
I'll try that out! The people I live with think I'm a little crazy anyway :p thanks!
I could not remember anything of what I have done. So lying in bed early this am I started to have imaginary conversations with Italians I will meet later in the day. Speaking out loud I realised that I could speak some conversational Italian, quite a lot. It is okay if you sleep alone but don't let the neighbors hear you. Just keep at it and you are learning more than you imagine. Talk to yourself, insanity is so comforting.
Hahah I've been getting a lot of 'talk to yourself' advice, so you can't be that insane! ;) thank you! :)
you need to redo each level again and again and make notes too, study them on a daily basis...otherwise its just a game without the desired results...
I've always had the same issue as I'm a visual learner, so reading/writing French is easy for me but speaking/listening is really difficult. I actually got an A in my French writing coursework and an E in my speaking at school! You might be the same. Nonetheless, I'd say that the auditory aspects of language learning come through exposure; you mostly read and write on Duolingo, which is probably why we're better at that than we are speaking in our chosen language.
Yeah, I'm a visual learner too! I know what you mean, people say that it's a lot easier to learn a language when you're around the people who speak it. I live in a small town with very little diversity so that probably doesn't help haha!
You should start a topic on here and look for a learning partner you could Skype speaking Italian with, that might help. I'd happily offer to be your partner myself but I've learnt very little as I'm trying to focus sur français !
Ooh yeah, I could do :) I'm a bit of a newbie to duolingo, I've been using the app but I literally only noticed these forums yesterday :p aw, that's very kind! Good luck with the French :D
Omg yes, it's so annoying!
I find it better if you close your eyes when listening to the audio so you aren't reading it at the same time, it makes me remember it quicker because I have to think about the words more.
I have the same problem so thanks for helping. That is good advice! I will take note of that!
That's really good advice, I'll try that. I was going to buy some CD's to listen to as well :)
It could be that you blank out because of panic/pressure. This happens to me when I run into a previous Italian professor when I least expect to on campus, even hearing me give a speech in the language.
However, when I am in constant communication with someone, I feel more comfortable, relax, and do much better. I think it is the same in any new language and part of the process.
Listen to John_Galliano.
Other tips: I used to think as much as possible in Italian after class while it was still fresh, pray, translate favorite songs as best I could (But there are great songs out there already in Italian, check it out), talk to my dog in the language and teach him commands as well. I still use basic Italian with my family and now they understand me and can answer simple questions. Engaging with the new language as much as possible is important and what helped me ace the classes (Knowing Spanish is a great boost too).
Yeah, I'm quite an awkward person and I definitely don't like pressure :p the songs idea is a really good tip, I'm good at memorising lyrics! Thank you! :)
I've found listening to free Italian news apps very helpful (there's one called News In Slow Italian and it's geared toward learners, and I also listen to RAI Radio). I'm often surprised by what I do understand, but I take notes for myself when I hear a word that's familiar but I can't instantly recall the translation.
When I started using Duolingo I also wrote down almost every sentence I was presented into a notebook, which I think helped commit things to memory.
Ohh cool! I will definitely download that app! :) yeah I'm exactly the same with the note taking hahah
This is an ongoing problem that I have had since the beginning. I have imaginary conversations with myself when I am doing the housework or walking the dogs. These seem to go quite well, but whenever I have to speak to another person I still freeze up. It's sooo frustrating!
I also find that if I don't have the word or sentence right in front of me, I can't remember or say what I am supposed to say. I think doing lost of practice and reading things aloud will help a lot. No one likes to hear Practice, but it must be done if you want to get good at something.
Seriously, READ EVERYTHING OUT LOUD!!!!! It helps sooooo much! i struggle with the same thing you do, but i struggle even more with translating from italian to english. I always get confused on word order. So my advice to you would be, just say everything out loud, exactly like the recording and soon you'll get it
I'm not very good at spanish yet but as people always say "practise makes perfect". You might not like to practise but it is the best way to learn better.
I'm going to use some of this advice because I struggle with the same. Although, today was my first day here! I plan on downloading some audio files to use as much as possible because I'd really like to get by with the basics when I go to Italy in June. Good luck to you and everyone else here with the same goal!