https://www.duolingo.com/Lewons7

Is it possible to change the new Dutch voice back to the lady?

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Or at least have it so it uses both. Then I can learn what different speakers sound like. I just prefer the girl :(

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Yurell
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Having it randomly alternate between the two voices will be good; unfortunately the guy is impossible for me to hear with background noise

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lewons7
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I agree. Some of the things the guy said I couldn't really understand and then they ended up being easy words I have known for ages. So I think it would be good to have both. It has that for some of the later skills but I think they are still phasing the guy in

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/joao_m_a_costa

It would be a nice option to implement. To randomize the voices or to choose the voices that the user wants to hear. The more voices, the more we can understand.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/prettyevil
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French has both a male and female robot and it alternates between them at random. You can't choose which one to hear or change it on any given sentence - I suppose that's pretty good for real life, I can't make someone speak with a new accent/tone/etc, I have to figure out what they specifically are saying.

I hope Dutch eventually goes to this. The male has some issues pronouncing some very beginner words - like menu's becoming mijn-ohs.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MTFCfN
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The new voice is almost unintelligible to me. There's static on it, and it's much quieter even when I turn up the speakers. I don't know why they've changed to this but I would really like the old voice back, too.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanielHoog

Apparently the old voice didn't sound Dutch, and there were some clipping issues as well. If this person sounds more Dutch then surely learning to understand the new voice would be more beneficial in the long run.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yurell
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I'm happy if his voice more accurately represents the Dutch language, but my main problem is that his pitch is so low, and his dynamic range so small, that I have a hard time hearing what he says above background noise. Maybe I'll get better at distinguishing with practice, but that's the type of voice I have trouble hearing and understanding in English (my native language) too.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aanaaaa
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Really? I understand this voice better than the other one :) , it sounds more like Dutch :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CatMcCat
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I didn't have any issues with static, but the new voice did surprise me. I thought my computer was malfunctioning!

I think the idea of alternating the voices would be good, assuming both voices sound Dutch. (I really can't judge that.) The French course has both a male and female voice and they alternate fairly randomly sometimes, which is good for improving listening skills.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohanWilhe

I agree about the sound quality. I'm all for having a voice with a proper accent, but as it is now the sound quality is way worse than the old voice. And not only is the sound quality poor (sounds like too hard compression with lots of distorsion), the lines have been read too fast, with not enough articulation, and they have even been edited too tight, sometimes cutting the start and end of words. All in all, it's very hard to hear what he's saying without turning the volume up really high, and that makes the "dings" way too loud. Some lines are impossible to hear at normal speed, and some words are almost impossible even at slow speed. First order of business should be to recompress the files with a higher bitrate after applying a compressor to get the sound levels up, and later think bout re-recording with clearer articulation.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JeffHK
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In a sentence like "De ministers gedragen zich onredelijk " the first part of the sentence is acceptable albeit rushed, but "onredelijk" is incomprehensible. Sigh. This is the Ivona Ruben voice. If you listen to the sample: "Hallo, mijn naam is Ruben. Ik ben één van de stemmen van IVONA. Ik kan alles voorlezen wat u maar wilt. Voer hier een tekst in en klik op Play" it sounds beautiful, complete with a natural sounding pause/break before "wat" and between "in" and "en"... if it can done with the sample it should possible with the Duo sentences... but it may take some time to hand "tweak" sentences. I feel so frustrated on behalf of the hardworking Dutch team.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Simius
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Yep, it's indeed Ruben. Actually we're not working very hard on it, because we have no way to tweak the voice ourselves. Instead, everything has to go through the overworked developers. So far, we have asked them if it can be slowed down and if the volume can be turned up.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JeffHK
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I just did 60 points in the Communicatie unit and Ruben seems to have calmed down just a bit tonight. There were no sentences that were a complete train wreck as there had been the day before. Generally Ruben was quite intelligible.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ruball
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I also would like to have the girl back. I am having a hard time trying to make out what the new male voice is saying. Please give us the girl back as I need to crack on with this.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dzhocef
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I don't have any problems on mobile with headphones. I like the new voice because it reminds me of this guy, and I think it pronounces "ei" and "ij" better than the female speaker. Perhaps the female speaker is being improved.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Drempt
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I am having a real problem with the male voice. It's gotten to the point where I find myself switching to Memrise in frustration.

When I decided to learn Dutch, just a few months ago, I chose Duolingo because of its great dynamic. Unfortunately, they had already switched to the male voice and, from the very beginning, I encountered problems, even simple ones, like with the words "menu" and "menu's" which are both butchered by either the editing or the compression used.

There are many more examples I could cite as it seems that every day I run into at least one word that's impossible to understand. Even words I already know sound unrecognizable at times.

I know how hard developers work to get this wonderful teaching tool up and running but I see that the last complaints about this particular voice have been posted 5 months ago and we still have the same problems.

Hoping for a fix in early 2017? :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Simius
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The developers don't care ("it's 3rd party software") and we (volunteers maintaining the Dutch course) can't do anything to fix it.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Drempt
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Oh, well... That's sad to hear. Thanks for the prompt reply.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wilkeshake

There isn't any hint of an effort for change even at the mention of a rival learning app? I've been using Memrise from the very start and I wanted to make the switch to Duolingo, but then I heard the voice used for the course and quickly gave up on the idea. :(

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/smoranau

How do you get the new voice? I still on the old voice on both my ipad and iphone apps.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/xMerrie
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It's an A/B test, so not everybody has the new voice yet. :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lucy477327
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I was progressing really well with my Dutch until they changed it and now I can't hear what he is saying at all. Today he pronounced the word 'Witen' like 'Wigen' whether I had it sped up or slowed down. I am getting very frustrated with it :( I want the woman back! I can learn a natural accent elsewhere!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ruball
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I agree. Why cant they just give us the woman back!

2 years ago
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