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Rusyn: Language OR Dialect?

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Hi, I study Ukrainian a lot and also have an interest in Slavic languages in general. I'm just wondering, according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusyn_language#Classification) Ukrainians regard this language as a dialect of Ukrainian. So I'm just wondering, is Rusyn a language? Also if it is, how different is it from Ukrainian? Like, is it Spanish & Italian different?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/skstudio
skstudio
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Questions like this are very politicized. Mostly because some countries use them to endorse separatism and destabilize other countries or, on the contrary, to deny other countries' independence and sovereignty. Moreover, there is no a rigorously defined and widely accepted rule to tell a dialect form a language.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jessica4201
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I haven't studied Rusyn yet, but it's on my list of languages I want to explore soon. From what I've read it is similar to Ukrainian, but distinct enough to be its own language. As for how distinct it is, I do not know but I would like to find out.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo
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When you begin studying it, let me know :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nicolas_jk

A "language" is just a popular dialect. The labeling of various dialects as "real languages" happens for political reasons. This is closely related to nationalism, and trying to deny speakers of minor dialects independence.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo
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Thanks, do you know how similar the two languages are?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nicolas_jk

Nope, sorry, no idea :-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Paragelmen

more similar, than Ukrainian with Russian

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo
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I can understand Russian pretty well, they must be super similar!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Martin_Jani
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actually I don't think so, I am from Slovakia and I can understand Rusyn pretty well, Ukrainian a bit and Russian almost never ... Rusyn also share lot of vocabulary and grammar with West Slavic languages (for example reflexive pronouns and verb 'to be' in present tense that does not exist in East Slavic languages) - so I'd say it is even less related to Russian

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Paragelmen

i know Norwegian has many dialects too))

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PolyglotCiro
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I bet it is a dialect.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Navojka

I'm Polish and it sounds shockingly similar to my native language, I felt like Czech and Slovak, but they use Cyrillic. I'm not even sure about this right now.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kristina2500

Ukrainians consider Rusyn as its dialect because it is said to be originated from Ukrainian. But it was a long time ago and Rusyn is very independent today. It has also its own dialects which depends on where you live. Because of its origin it is similar to Ukrainian, but it's also similar to other Slavic languages (e.g.Slovak, Polish, Russian). But there are also many differences. The alphabet differs a bit and also the vocabulary differs a lot.

9 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anna_Elsa_J.

People argue about it... It's an official language in Vojvodina,Serbia, recognisez minority language in Poland, Slovakia and since 2012 Ukraine, but still some Ukrainian linguists call it a dialect of Ukrainian and Lemko people call it a Rusyn/Lemko language...

2 years ago