https://www.duolingo.com/ironwoman358

Il pomodoro è una frutta!

Anyone else bothered by the fact that they have the tomato as a vegetable? Not that all of the sentences make the most sense (I eat a bear...), but this is just false.

January 23, 2013

46 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Anonimo13

By the way, in italian the correct sentence would be "Il pomodoro è un frutto"

January 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/AdrianaLus

Sorry but, why is it frutto and not frutta? :( I'm confused now

October 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Anonimo13

Because "frutta" refers to the food in general. "Un frutto" is the single physical object, you can't say "una frutta" (tho in some region it's used, but it's dialectal). The example doesn't fit perfectly, but frutto : frutta = coin : money. So you can say "la frutta" (the money), but not "le frutte" (the moneys) nor "una frutta" (a money). You can say "il frutto" (one coin) and "i frutti" (the coins). I hope I was clear enough

October 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/professorclee

If we say, "the tomato is a fruit," it seems that "frutta" would apply though, since we are talking not about the tomato as a single object but as part of the category of fruit in general, not a single physical object but belonging to the larger family. Non è vero?

November 10, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/imeldacook

I would agree with this although many people think of it as a vegetable.

December 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/AdrianaLus

Yes! Very clear, thank you!

October 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Marhad

because Italian for fruit is la frutta. It's a separate noun and isn't therefore influenced by il pomodoro being masculine.

October 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/gabelevi

This is actually a complex issue. Technically speaking, yes, it is a fruit. However, people traditionally spoke about tomatoes as vegetables. There was even a court case about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden

January 26, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sermanther

If it really is a complex issue, Duolingo should just make us translate "il pomodoro è un frutto o una verdura?"

February 24, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jesslc

Botanically speaking quite a few vegetables are really fruits - tomatoes, eggplants, squash, peppers for example. Mushrooms are typically considered a vegetable even though botanically speaking they're not even a plant.

Duolingo's probably going by a culinary definition of fruit and vegetables - which considering that's the most likely situation that most of us will use the food words in, I don't think that's a problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable#Terminology

June 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/bartsnel

I don't think we're suppose to think about the meaning of the sentences, just the translation. After all, we've been eating bears and seen reading monkeys and that didn't seem to bother anyone.

January 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nicodamus

The issue would be if it's either "una frutta" or "una verdura". It is always understood that it is "un frutto" and "un vegetale".

February 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/gajonauta

Botanically speaking, tomatoes are fruit. However, in terms of culinary, they're considered vegetables.

March 14, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/memoi

"Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."

April 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/TheGandalf

Sono molto d'accordo.

October 10, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/aussie97

Yes, I agree!

April 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jackpady

If we're getting strict, bananas are berries. Why can't we have that to translate?

May 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ZemnianGnome

Bananas are actually herbs - they're part of the ginger family. Along with Birds of Paradise (and Amy Pond, I suppose).

December 21, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/monkey4blue

hahahaha

December 5, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/pau1_15_awe50me

no they are herbs

January 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/andritta

i always loved 'the water is in the sugar'

July 13, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Connor_devonish

L'acqua è nel lo zucchero - is that the right way to say it??

August 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/GiulioNotGuilio

No, the right way would be: L'acqua è nello zucchero. But makes more sense that the sugar is in the water: "Lo zucchero è nell'acqua". Wanna laugh ?I am Italian, but there are so many errors in Duolingo Italian that I am not able to pass the lock sessions :P

August 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/pilpilon

when you have sugar in the water it is a good thing and you could drink sweet water when you have water in the sugar it is a bad thing as sugar gets all lumpy and you could not take it out of the jar.

August 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/lucyvnakumara

That's not an error! Saying "The water is in the sugar" is not a problem because it's certainly possible! I don't think that counts as an error. If the other problems that you had in the lock sessions were like that, I just don't think you were really trying.

September 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Connor_devonish

That is quite scary considering I'm learning this language from scratch. I'd also wish they would explain. The grammar more - only reason I can work out conjunctions etc. Is because I did 10 years of French at school, otherwise I would have no clue

August 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/andritta

seriously? I am half-italian and wanted to improve my skills, so maybe it's not the best way to do it :P

September 5, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/barBi.s

I agree with you, but the most important thing here is to improve your Italian, not your botanical knowledge.

August 21, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/1polyglot

tomatoes bear seeds which meets the definition of fruit

June 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/lucyvnakumara

Well, it doesn't really matter, and no one will be using Duolingo as a reference (ex. "I know the tomato is a vegetable because Duolingo says so!") so I don't think it really matters. If you really think that's incorrect you should report it as "The English sentence is nonsensical" :)

September 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/OKAshley

in culinary terms the tomato is a vegetable, maybe that's why.

November 25, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Italian.Ice

Yes, a tomato is a fruit. When Christopher Colombus came to the Americas, he named them "pomodori," or " golden fruit."

January 5, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cpecora

Si, e vero!

January 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/GiulioNotGuilio

Si è vero. Mind the accent on "to be " verb or it will be translated as "and". Remember: He is John (Lui è John), He and John (Lui e John). So the accent is fundamental or you'll get it all wrong :)

April 25, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/barBi.s

You are right, but if (s)he is not Italian, (s)he may not be able to type that letter.

August 28, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/renato_f

You are right, but if (s)he is not Italian, (s)he may not be able to type that letter.-- Tu hai ragione, ma se (lei)lui non è italian(a)o, (lei)lui non è capace di digitare questa lettera. In the course are special characters; with foreign keyboards it using E' e' for È è.

August 31, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/mangoHero1

Sì, è vero. Mind the accent on the "yes" word or it will be translated as oneself. :)

October 17, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jbclements

Why can't a tomato be both a fruit and a vegetable? I see nothing wrong with this.

April 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jesslc

Humans like to classify things. :)

June 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/monkey4blue

True. A fruit-table. I don't know how to say that in italian though haha

December 5, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/DadaHua

It should be changed .... as you said it: because "this is just false". If a dolphin can be regarded in its right species category i.e. mammal and not by appearance i.e. a fish ("The dolphin is not a fish."), why than the tomato couldn't?

August 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Alexalovesopera

good to know

September 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/robertwarriner

giusto - non e una verdura

December 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/agher

true hahaha

January 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/iinsieme

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February 10, 2014

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    Botanically speaking, a tomato is a fruit; that is what the post was about. The same holds good for an avocado. However, all over the world these fruits are generally regarded as vegetables in cookery books and also in diet rules.

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