"À moins que nous n'ayons raison ?"

Translation:Unless we are right?

January 23, 2013

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mttedwards

If anyone is confused like I was, after looking it up I discovered that "a moins que" needs the "ne" and the subjunctive to make it mean "unless". So the "ne" does not make it a negative...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/puppydust

Interesting. Anyone know how you'd say "Unless we aren't right?"then? Double 'ne'? i.e. À moins que nous ne n'ayons pas raison?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DianaM

No, just add the "pas". À moins que nous n'ayons pas raison.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CommanderKenobi1

For something similar to 'Unless we aren't right' I have heard 'Et si nous n'avons pas raison?'/And if we aren't right?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Agonisti

But isn't "ne explétif" optional?

The comment above says it is required here for whatever reason to accompany "à moins que".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chronomatex

Is it possible to say "être droit" instead of "avoir raison"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n6zs

"Être droit" means "to be straight", e.g., nous devon être droit les uns avec les autres (we have to be straight with one another). "Avoir raison" means "to be right".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/d0tT4
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Yes, yes I am confused, but thank you mttedwards it's starting to unravel a bit with your explanation, thank you.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nicholas_ashley

To understand the structure of the sentence in the exercise you need to be aware of the following two points:

Point 1

à moins que is a conjunction meaning unless and requires the subjunctive

Point 2

à moins que may use the ne expletive.

So what is the ne expletive

An expletive in grammar means a word or phrase used to fill out a sentence or line of verse without adding to the sense

ne is an expletive

The addition of a dummy ne is for euphony reasons only, i.e. for words to flow in a smoother way. This phenomenon belongs to formal French and it is found a lot in literature.

The ne explétif is used after certain verbs and conjunctions. It is used in situations where the main clause has a negative (either negative-bad or negative-negated) meaning, such as expressions of fear, warning, doubt, and negation.

The ne explétif is disappearing to some extent, and is more common in literary than in colloquial French, but it is still important to be able to recognize it so that when you do see or hear it, you understand that it does not make the subordinate clause negative (negated).

examples

Elle a peur qu'il ne soit malade. - She's afraid that he is sick.
J'évite qu'il ne découvre la raison. - I'm avoiding his discovering the reason.
Nie-t-il qu'il n'ait vu ce film ?- Does he deny seeing this movie?
Il est parti avant que nous n'ayons décidé. - He left before we decided.
Luc en veut plus que Thierry n'en a. - Luc wants more than Thierry has.

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