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Your level does not show how far you have gone down teh learning tree

alireza
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Dear all,

Suppose that I remain at the skill "Basics" for a language and practice and practice and practice.... Then I can increase my level from 1 to 2 to 5 to 10 to.. infinity. So I think currentl level indicator is not as informative as it can/may better be.

My suggestion is adding a second, probably alphabetical value to the level number indicating how far the user has explored the learning tree.

The value can be normalized from A to Z for all lanaguages by vertically partitioning the learning tree to 26 partitions/levels/stages. Value Z will indicate then taht the user has already completed the whole tree.

A user's level then would be somthing like 15F, or 18Q showing how much score they have (and how much they have practiced) as well as how far they explored the tree and learned new topics.

Thanks and Best

4 years ago

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Anglea
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I fancy a little crown or something on my flag to tell everyone when I finish the tree. And really, I'll need to sing it from the rooftops should I ever get to the roots of that tree. Such an achievement for those who have completed theirs! I'm most impressed when I see someone has done this.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pont
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Petit à petit, l'oiseau fait son nid! -- as you'll know if you've bought the French "Idioms" skill. Any big project looks insurmountable if you contemplate the whole thing at once. Focus on daily and weekly goals, and eventually you'll find yourself sitting at the bottom of the tree thinking "huh? How did I get here all of a sudden?".

The advantage with doing it steady and slow (Italian took me about a year, I think) is that you have time to practise your acquired skills, get the words into your long-term memory, and slow down the decay rates. Anyone who romps through the tree at great speed will have a lot of work keeping it gold for the first few weeks after completion (no disrespect intended to the speed demons -- I don't deny the impressiveness of their feats!).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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If you want to see how far someone is on their tree, you can just click on their profile. You'll see how many of the skills are golden, too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stecchetto
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I'd like to have a measure of how much of the tree is completed too, but I think it would be better to just show it as a percentage (or a "level" from 0 to 100 that corresponds to the percentage).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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Right now the maximum level is 25. The points increase as you advance, and you need a total of about 30000 to reach level 25 (that is about 3000 lessons with 10 points per lesson). In general it is possible to reach this number of points just by practicing lesson one again and again but it will not be easy. My guess is that if anybody ever tries, he will give up after a few levels. The real target here is to learn a language, and everything else exist just to assist, and motivate the learning process. If somebody decides to abuse the system and gain points without actually learning a language, that is a problem for him/her.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alireza
alireza
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What I said was the extreme case. In general, I think it is worth-having to have a level indicator which says as well as how much one practices, how far one has leanrned the tree.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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I actually love and support the idea! :D I hope the staff read it so they can implement it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nashrambler
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In the beginning I was bothered trying to figure out the connection between points, the tree, levels and what else. I finally concluded there is no connection. Then I discovered you get points for translating so I think that means a native speaker could come to DL, translate, get points which shows up as increasing levels, and never touch the tree. Now I pay no attention to the system. Para mi, DL es un sitio web fantastico y no miras un caballo gratis en la boca. Still, I like your idea. Estoy cerca de 15J, como acerca usted?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nashrambler
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Also the little blocks in the tree don't seem to correlate to anything. So when I say I am at 15J that is just a guess. Maybe I'm missing something.

4 years ago