https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dabney38

A new language

Five islands in the Caribbean speak Papiamentu. Is anyone interested in studying this language?

April 26, 2016

83 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fremozoid

I have applied to help out also. Native Papiamentu & English speaker from Curaçao here :)

May 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

Thank you! Let's hope they are sensibilized now. They don't know what they're missing, Duolingo can be very effective for Papiamentu.

May 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scottspan3

Thank you for applying - that is great!

May 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Talen_sb

Thank you!

May 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/israelpolasak

Hey just curious as to why they don't actually make this, everyone I know who learned it, said they learned it in less than 3-5 months because it is so easy.. I bet if 3 contributors worked on it the course can be done in less than 9 months easy, me studying it for 3 days already know quite a bit more than other languages ive tried to study for a month+, its really simple especially grammar wise!

August 30, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scottspan3

Hi, do you have any recommendations on where/how to study this?

May 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/israelpolasak

http://bit.ly/2oURGa8 (scroll up and down) Just one of the places I would use :) I also googled "Papiamentu/o grammar" and worked off of some page I found! Hope this helped :)

May 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Paribapabou

Indeed, papiamento is not complicated, especially the grammar. Wordswise it is somewhat linked to Dutch, English, (very much linked to)Spanish, Portuguese, and some French. This is also valid for certain expressions, e.g "Hola, con ta bai?" = Hello, how is it going? = How are you? Now, bai can also be used in: "Unda bo ta bai?" = Where are you going? And there are some indigenous words descended from the Arawaks. And if you cannot come up with a certain word, just borrow it from the language you are most familiar with. https://glosbe.com/pap/es/pichiri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papiamento

May 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

We don’t actually say hola

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

Also pichiri is not a really nice word. It’s not a curse word, but people will get offended if you call them that.

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Paribapabou

Israelpolasak Bon bisa. E grammatica di Papiamento ta simpel, por ehemplo: Mi TA papia ( I speak or I am speaking [depending on the context]); Bo TA papia; E TA papia; Nos TA papia; Boso TA papia; Nan TA papia. That was the present tense. For the past tense, replace TA with A, e.g. Mi A papia un ora largo ( I spoke for one hour long). I constantly use both Papiamento and Dutch as stepping stones into other languages. Checko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papiamento

May 10, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dabney38

This is an interesting language composed of Dutch, Spanish, English, Portugese. A patois sort of language. The islands involved are Bonaire, Curacao, Aruba, Saba, & St. Eustacias.

April 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/carloscids

Indeed it sounds quite interesting

April 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/koalameng

Hi, from the island of Aruba here, I'd be happy to be contribute. Any fellow islanders on here speaking Papiamento / Papiamentu fluently?

May 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dabney38

I live on Bonaire. There was only one course offered and it was very poorly organized and taught. I have a Papiamentu dictionary and just try to do the best I can. Reading Extra (the newspaper) helps a lot.

June 3, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

I am a fluent speaker, Brazilian, speak English and Spanish, been to the islands in 2013. I have a dictionary and some textbooks and the experience of working on several other languages. All I need are natives to help write authentic dialogues.

September 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

This is two years ago and there is still nothing happening. I applied.

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

Si

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Hi dabney38,

Maybe a more explicit title of your discussion (anything like "Request for Papiamentu language" could help having more answers and upvotes.

April 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PolyglotCiro

If it would say ''Papiamentu language'' or something like that, it wouldn't have received so many up votes.

August 30, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

"Request for Papiamentu language" or "A new language: Request for Papiamentu language" as title (and the rest equal) would probably have had more upvotes since all users downvoting automatically discussions with title as unprecise as "new language" (because they think it's a discussion about language asked for daily and thus don't open the discussion and just downvote) wouldn't have downvoted it. Thus the net total would be higher.

August 31, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dhoude60

i would take that course if offered!

May 28, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zeek88

I teach English at a university in Holland, and I have a small group of Aruban students of mine teaching me Papiamento. Because it's a creole, the grammar is rather simple, and I think a course could be made here rather quickly. At present there really aren't a lot of resources for learning the language, and it would be an amazing addition to have a DuoLingo course!! =)

October 8, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

If you can put us in contact... All I need is native input/recording/feedback

October 8, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zeek88

Fabulous! I know three natives from Aruba who are all very interested! :

Dyantha: dyantha.ruiz@gmail.com Gonzalo: gonzaloramirez1992@gmail.com Jeff: jeffreymaduro93@gmail.com

Hope you are able to all get in touch!! =)

October 9, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dabney38

Good suggestion - discussion title should be Request For Papiamentu Language.

April 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Thus you can edit your original message and change the title.


Also, when you answer to a specific comment, it's better to use the "Reply" grey button just under the comment you want reply to.
This allows to keep the discussion organized and thus readable.

April 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/britt794784

I would like to have this language added to the list!

June 3, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rickyrossi

And I speak Papiamento and I have a website that teaches Papiamento to Portuguese speakers! I'd love to start this course or contribute to it exists! :)

October 31, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

So how do we apply for starting the course? (I know your videos Ricky, great job!)

November 1, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

You can apply here and the day Duolingo will decide to add the course, they'll choose 2 first contributors among all applicants..

November 1, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katariq

How makes Duolingo for decide if a course goes or not?

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Duolingo never shared a precise set of rules nor their "importance" ordering, so we can't know.
It's in fact likely there isn't a written in stone order list of criteria.

But see the "How does Duolingo decide which courses to add next?" discussion created by staff.

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rickyrossi

Thankss! :) We can start this course! In my website (hridiomas.com.br/papiamento) has a lot of articles about Papiamento, I did the translate from English and Spanish.

November 1, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidClifford29

I really wish this would be a new course soon!

November 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miranka

Very interested! Mi mester usa Memrise awo, ma e website ei no ta hopi bon..

December 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IzaakWever

Por fin un hende a contesta na Papiamento. Ami no conose memrise, mi tei check e awor. But I am curious they wrote Papiamento/Papiamentu, now we can't deny there will be clashes haha

July 25, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

Si ma purb’e y e ta Hopi stranjo

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tinus18

Yes!

December 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Talen_sb

I support this! But like jrikhal said, you should edit the title of this post. Anyway, I'd be really interested in learning this language. Please make this possible!

December 30, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kiddthickkems

I certainly want someone to teach me Papiamentu

February 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juicyforecast

I wanna learn papiamentu

March 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juicyforecast

I wanna learn papiamentu

March 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/carolinaottawa

My partner is Aruban and I've been slowly learning Papiamento on my own. I would also love it if Duolingo offered this.

March 24, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Talen_sb

Would you ask him if he would be able to colaborate for the course? :)

May 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bingnicenez

I would be interested in learning it.

April 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scottspan3

I would love to see this Papiamento/Papiamentu course developed and would definitely take it on duolingo

April 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Neron510880

Yes

April 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Neron510880

this would be interesting

April 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marjolijn738455

Yes please! I want to work in the Dutch Caribbean and speaking Papiamento would definitely be a plus!

October 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rixphae

After knowing and using Duolingo for a while now, I've only just noticed that there was a thread for Papiamento(u).

Even though the conversation started like 3 years ago, I still applied and hope that this course will be made into a reality.

I think it'll not only be beneficial for those who want to learn and speak the language, but also for those who already do. I was raised in Aruba, I think that the elementary school level (and even sometimes secondary school) don't place enough time and attention on teaching the children the language.

In fact, they recently added Papiamento as one of the subject you can choose from in Highschool (MAVO / HAVO / VWO) and a lot of local students chose that subject. However, despite being a local, many still struggled with the exam and some even failed.

I believe it just goes to show how important it is to have have a good application (or website) that gives the locals of the island and non-locals the opportunity to to learn, love and speak the language that is called Papiamento(u).


Also another thing that wasn't brought up. While Papiamento and Papiamentu are really similar (basically the same language). There are still some spelling differences and rules between the two. If a course is (hopefully) made for this language, would we have to introduce both spelling rules? One for Papiamento and one for Papiamentu?

*(I'm not saying that there should be two difference courses. As I said, they are the same language. I'm just stating that if a course was to made, it should definitely still hold the spelling rules of both 'versions' of Papiamento(u).

Anyways, that was just my two cents. I really hope this language is added.

Pasa un bon dia.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rixphae

By the way. Whilst I am already following this thread, if there are any updates or perhaps if there are any Papiamento(u) speakers that know of other applications or websites that want to include Papiamento(u) and need contributions or helpers, then feel to contact me at:

fyr_rakae@outlook.com

Thanks again for your time!

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Youmeanthatguy

I am VERY interested in learning this language as my company works in the Caribbean. This would be incredibly useful when our team is down there.

May 10, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kurasolenho

I can help. Native speaker of Papiamentu, as well as trained anthropologist.

June 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

I am a fluent speaker of Papiamento and I would be glad to help create this course

September 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rickyrossi

And I speak Papiamento and I have a website that teaches Papiamento to Portuguese speakers! I'd love to start this course or contribute to it exists! :)

October 31, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

ricky, I've just sent my application, and the more applications they get, the more likely they are to open the course on the Incubator. Just go here https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply

and write in English and in Papiamento why you want to work on the course. I've already marked that I'm willing to be a moderator, so it's up to you if you want to check that box as well. Mashá danki!

November 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JurriaanKloek

Hi, I would love to have the course availalbe and study Papiamento through Duolingo! Is there anything apart from donating lingots that I can do for you to get more support?

November 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hidsonguimaraes

So far I have no idea, really. I think more people should apply as authors of the course. I've already sent my application to Duolingo, but no answer from them.

November 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

You can upvote this page

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PlaYBoYBuNNieJ

I do not speak Papiamento but i would like to learn it tho.. i cannot fill in het application because of a lack of Papiamento xD

January 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scottspan3

Hi, have you gotten any more feedback or information on a possible English to Papiamento course? Thank you!

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanellyLiz

I really would love to learn this. I just moved to Aruba.

October 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IzaakWever

I miss mi pida baranca

July 25, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kiddthickkems

i am

February 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnaReyes708190

When we star!

July 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GaloCuevas

Haitian Creole is in hatching process. It would be amazing to have two creole languages in Duolingo

November 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/katelynnga7

I would love to learn papiamentu! I will be spending over a month in Aruba and am interested in learning the native language.

December 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ipineappledude

Yes, but I do t know how to

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Willy673788

I agree. This would be a great addition.

February 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chlo451138

My boyfriend is from Aruba. I'd love to be able to communicate more easily with his family.

August 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YanivLevi

Yes. why? Do you want to make this course (If you know)?

May 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dabney38

I live on the island of Bonaire in the Dutch Caribbean. The languages here are Papiamentu, Dutch, and English. The locals are most appreciative when expats learn their language. That is why I want to do so.

May 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dhoude60

I have been to Bonaire and Curacao several times and plan to return. Although I have gotten along fine speaking just english, I would like to be able to speak and understand the native language.

June 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BraddBurningham

Ditto for me. When I was in Curacao last year I noticed how much Spanish was in Papiamentu (as well as how many Spanish speakers there were) and I regretted not having tuned up the duo espanol a bit before going. I am going to Bonaire this year and am back on duo working on Spanish in anticipation. If Papiamentu was offered, that's what I'd be working on. I think the two languages would complement and reinforce each other. I'm not sure how to otherwise add my voice/vote to the request, other than to give the initiator a lingot, which I plan to do.

December 4, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MetroWestJP

My first ever trip out of the country was to Curaçao back in 1998. I wish DuoLingo Papiamentu had been available back then. It would have made the trip that much more fun.

January 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CPuff

Sounds interesting.

June 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NancyGalla295055

I would Ike very much to take the course!! I know basic ‘polite’ Papiamento. The language/spelling differs between the islands though, so a ‘standard’ for the language might be difficult. ‘Aruban Papiamento’ may be a better term (or whichever island). Someone below posted ‘hola’ for a greeting. Unless they are speaking Spanish, which most do, I have never heard anyone say that in 30 years. The greetings are instead, Bon Dia, Bon Tardi, or Bon Nochi, depending on time of day.

September 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KellyRoth3

Been visiting Aruba since I was a child, I would LOVE to be able to learn their language on duo lingo!

September 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kim159737

This was the first language i looked for when i got duolingo. I had to settle for Spanish, but so far I feel like I've learned more spanish than i did in two years of high school classes. The ABC islands are my favorite place I have traveled to and understanding the language would really help. I know the area is getting more popular with tourists and cruise lines are starting to go there, some for the first time. This language is going to have more and more demand, I'm sure.

March 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Paribapabou
May 10, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Oldiee

I would like to learn Papiamentu as well! Does anyone know if it is coming any time soon?

May 10, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dioidioi

I am interested in Papiamento, it can be a support language for those studying Dutch and Spanish too, for fun and to see how they relate

June 10, 2019
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