Reactions to Web Redesign
As many of you know, yesterday we started upgrading users to a new version of the website that we've been testing for the last month and a half. Most users who signed up in the last few weeks only experienced the redesigned website, but yesterday was the first time that anybody who had the old design was switched to the new one. As is expected with any major change, a number of people were unhappy because they liked the way things used to be. We've been reading every single one of your comments and are taking note about what people like and don't like. I wanted to take an opportunity to address some of the concerns and to assure you that we deeply care about your opinions.
Why did we do the redesign? The truth is that even though Duolingo is already the most popular language learning service online, it's not yet as good as we want it to be. We are perfectionists, and we won't rest as long as we think we can improve it. Many people asked why we're "fixing something that wasn't broken." To them I say: because, in our own opinion it WAS broken since we could see hundreds of ways of improving it. We're not conformists, and I strongly believe that the day we decide to rest on our laurels is the day we will fall short from achieving our dream of free language education for the world. Others asked why we spent effort working on this instead of fixing some issues with translations of sentences. While this is a valid point, the fact is that we're working on fixing both issues, and the design team is different from our language team so this redesign did not affect the speed with which we fix sentences.
What did the testing show? According to our metrics with over 300,000 users, the new design simply performs better. People spend more time on the site, get farther down the tree, come back more often, share more on Facebook, get more items on the store, etc. This suggests that getting used to the design change is simply a matter of time. I know that for me, personally, it took a few days to start loving it as much as I do now. But when I now see the old design I can't believe this is what Duolingo looked like -- a page from the early 2000s!
Many of you have pointed out usability issues such as having to scroll on smaller screens, or missing features such as trophies for completed trees. Please know that the whole team has been working non-stop on fixing these and we should have most if not all fixed by the end of the day. We are also working on a new version of the vocabulary page that will be better integrated with the core Duolingo experience.
I want to personally assure you that we will continue doing everything we can to address all your concerns. I am glad that we have such a caring community.
Luis von Ahn, CEO of Duolingo
Hi Luis, quick feedback from someone with old eyes. Even when I zoom my browser, the type size seem really small and strains my eyes. This is especially true of the little buttons for accented letters in French. I can't see the difference between the accent marks, thus I don't use them...which is not taking full advantage of your great program. Also, the yellow color on new words makes it harder to read than something with more contrast. It also means I can't stay on the site as long as I used to. Anyway, I know a lot of people are leaving stylistic feedback, and I don't care much about that, but size and clarity definitely affect usability, especially for us in the bi-focal/tri-focal set. I imagine I am not in your top demographic, and that this is a problem that statistics won't indicate. If I do zoom my browser all the way to make the exercises more legible, then my tree is huge and I can only see a tiny fraction of it...to me this means the proportions are off between the tree page and the exercise pages.
Thanks again for an excellent product and your commitment to free language learning for everyone. It is not only enjoyable, but it is also inspiring to be on this ride with you.
I'm finding the new format very hard on the eyes. I just can't stay on the site as long as I'd like to. I love Duolingo and until today looked forward to getting on, but I'm finding myself frustrated by the many new glitches. I miss the coins. The graph is hokey; not nearly as good looking as the coin stacks. Why do away with the good stuff? I do appreciate all the work that goes into it but you've got to fix the visual problems. Size, brightness, colour, etc. Also as one question switches to another there is a bleed through of the words then the screen goes blank for a second before returning. I can't read any of the discussions below the questions in an excercise because it wont scroll down; the "report problem" doesn't work most of the time, etc. But the worst thing is that the "back" or " delete" button; the backarrow with the "x"; backs up 2 spaces with each click instead of one. It's driving me crazy especially with a delay that's been happening, when i type, (frequently of late). I thought it might be my computer but all my other programs work at normal speed. Sorry for the complaints but when something is good and then becomes bad instead of better, well...
Yeah, I find the new Duolingo look hard on my eyes and I prefer the old look and the coins. I think they should make it less bright and put colors that are easier on the eyes and less bright or else make it so that people can pick what colors they want.
I didn't go on Duolingo for a few days because the new look was too bright, but I thought I'd try it again now, using sunglasses. I've done one round of Portuguese so far and kept all my hearts. It's a little dark with the sunglasses, but I have to do it this way. I lost my streak and have to start over. I was going on here every day and trying to at least be the 2nd or 3rd on the leader board till the new look took some of the wind out of my sails.
Its designed more for smart phones and I don't like it, used it solid for months now and then this. not sure I will continue. they really dumbed it down and took away the homework lessons that made it challenging.
> Even when I zoom my browser, the type size seem really small and strains my eyes.
Say it ain't so, drplasma64 and Luis! I have some trouble with font size in the old format ( http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1438616$comment_id=1532626 ). Everything that drplasma64 says here probably applies to me also. The new format I've not seen, but enlargeable font size would surely be very helpful. From the upcount it appears we, drplasma64 and I, are not alone.
Thanks for mentioning it, drplasma64, and for looking into it, Luis. Be all this as it may, the new format would have to be a good deal less comfortable than it has been so far to keep me away completely, this is such an enjoyable site.
(A lingot for each of you. Luis you can have all my lingots if you would like, anytime.)
It's not so much the font size for me as it is the font style. I find it very hard on the eyes.
Contrast is an issue with the new layout; I feel like there's almost no contrast left. Some screens (especially laptop screens and cheaper screens) handle low contrast pretty badly. I have to tilt my laptop screen a lot more than usual to be able to use the site comfortably.
No huge issues, but it'd be nice if contrast were addressed in the future :)
Hi drplasma, do you know about the US International keyboard setting? You can set your keyboard so that typing ' and then e gives you é, which would help a bit with the little buttons issue. It won't do anything for the rest of your issues, but might make the site a bit more bearable to use while Duolingo figure out what to do for people with weak eyes.
I don't know how to get the US International keyboard, but I do know how to easily get your keyboard in a different language (and then be able to easily switch between it and an English keyboard).
For a PC, at least, go to the Control Panel -> Clock, Language, and Region -> Add a Language then select the language you want. Then on the right side of the taskbar there will be a little thing to click to change the language of the keyboard whenever you want. (And you may want to google a picture of the keyboard layout so you can know where all the special characters are.) Since I'm learning Spanish, I got the Spanish one and now almost always just have it set to that, it's my default, and practically only switch it back to English to get the ^ key. lol :)
Hey, I recognize that keyboard guide! xD (It's a work in progress (aren't they always?) but it comes with some nice visuals...if I do say so myself ;)
@856pm, re: your graphics. Important things aren't always built in a day. :)
Thanks for the explanation about the work on improvements! Two questions:
(I've also asked this in the previous thread), could you at least restore the vocabulary list without the practice option while you're working on a new algorithm? If Duolingo shows how many words I've learned, it must have a list of them. Just the list and the last time I practiced a word would do.
Now that you're done with the big design change, could you work on adding more functions such as "speaking practice only" or "listening practice only"? Those would really open up possibilities.
Oh, and I've just realized that I cannot view my daily progress anymore. (It used to appear on the homepage) It's good to know how many coins I've earned in a day and see my progress compared to the other days so that I can know if I need to practice more that day. Can you bring that feature back?
I agree, that the daily progress coins and the trophies are babies that should not be thrown out with the bathwater And the vocabulary page!!! Gotta have it.
Yes, please bring the daily progress on the home screen back. The coins!! Please!!
yes, please put it back. I use it to gauge how much I've worked each day and to make sure I put in "enough" time. I know I get a graph of the same numbers after each practice, but it is better for me to have it up front like it used to be.
The high-water mark on the current day's coin stack motivated me many times: I often did more lessons than I'd intended just to get my coin stack up to or beyond the mark.
I also appreciated having the daily coin stack just as a double-check that I'd completed at least one DL lesson that day to keep my streak going. Any sort of flag would work for me for this, however--even a simple indicator in the title bar indicating that my streak was OK for the day. Perhaps two flavors of the little icon atop the streak icon: a green checkmark for OK for the day and a red exclamation point for "get to work!".
You should have a green check mark next to your streak flame at the top of your screen. You get a check mark that means you are good to go until the next day. However, this is for the overall streak. Because of that, when I open Duolingo, the first thing I do is go and earn one point in each of my trees.
YES! Restore the vocabulary section! At least give us back the words lists for individual lessons and sections!
I completely agree. I use the vocabulary page quite often when reviewing and would greatly appreciate it sticking around until a new interface is roled out. I do however really like the new design.
I also use the vocabulary page quite frequently in order to make sure that I don't forget previous words. Now I can't find it and I sometimes do not have time to do the whole lesson. I would really love to see it again!
Yes! Please! And the rollover that gives the translation. I can't work on the words I don't know in this new design.
I agree the vocabulary page was really good. I know it isn't integrated with the site but maybe that is not a bad thing. I think it is useful if you check the vocabulary page at least once a week to see if you remember all the stuff
Excellent points on both and I have the same exact issues with both of those changes they should and shouldn't have made.
Can we please be able to see our friend's trees? It's really motivating to see how well your friends are doing compared to yourself. And now, I have no idea how close my friends are to finishing their courses :(
But how am I supposed to judge random internet strangers without being able to see their tree ;)
Have a lingot!! Duolingo has to be the most exciting company for me at the moment (and yes, I am comparing you to the likes of Google and Apple). For the amount of employees you have, you guys are doing amazing things and I really thank you for that! I am using Duolingo to advance my knowledge in French and hopefully will soon also start Russian (I already know the basics). Also, looking forward to receiving the new design myself!
Hello! I think I'll add my opinion, in case someone is interested. For me, the change has good and bad stuff, it's not like the worse or best change ever.
Things I like:
The new I French for Spanish speakers course
The graphic design. This page was designed to be like a game, and the images describe better the contents of the skills. Anyway, I agree that they may be a bit too big for small displays.
The smoothness between questions in a lesson.
The spinning O in the logo whenever the page is loading.
The visibility of the lingots and streaks.
Giving lingots to comments! I don't know if that is new, but I just realized now, hahaha
Things I don't like:
I don't like Duolingo distancing itself from its game-like functioning. XPs are dull, coins were fun. I enjoyed and it motivated me having them in sight for my whole week. Also, I wouldn't limit the coins showing at 100, I'd make the graphic scalable so it shows when you get 300 coins in a day. It helps you feel good, feel an achiever. The same goes to the lines connecting the lessons and the trophies. I earned those trophies, I want to have them and be able to show them to my friends in a similar way you can show to your friends the achievements in Xbox or Steam. Being good in a language is not motivation enough. I need to compete with my friends. Just having a few round icons changing colours from red to other colour is not enough to keep me going. I need to have more stuff to rub at my friends faces to keep the competition alive. There may be some people who can sit and study just because they want to better at something, or maybe because they have some present or future plan involving the language they are learning, and that keeps them going forward. But I learn for fun, and for me, is competing with my friends what makes it fun. I love data and statistics and numbers. I would like to see in what aspects I beat my friends, in what aspects they beat me, not just general stuff. Am I a better listener than them? My grammar is the worse? I would like to compare our mountains of coins, race them to the next level and stuff like that. We could make duels for some lingots! But, I If you keep taking that side of Duolingo back, there is a great chance that at some point I get bored and stop coming back. I have an account at Babbel and the lessons are great, with native speakers voices. You learn a lot if you are driven enough to follow through the lessons, but it's not fun, there is no competition like in Duolingo, so I am not as keen to go into that page. The playing part is what keeps me hooked to Duolingo. Don't take it away.
Now there is no way to know if the streak includes the current day or not (except taking a lesson). I am sometimes on-line around midnight, and then, next morning, I am unsure if the coins or XP I gained were before or after midnight. I don't want to take a lesson just to check that. (If there is a way, I didn't find it)
I can't write in the forums (p.e. this message) on Opera. I could before.
I don't know why did you take the vocabulary page out. As I said, I like data. I love having hundreds of rankings and numbers to snoop on. I loved checking from time to time the list of words. Even if I didn't use it too often, each of those words was a little treasure I earned. I loved staring at them, see the list grow bigger, check mentally what I remembered better, check for some example of some word I didn't understood very well. I really look forward for it to be back.
The missing discussions on the questions. They made a lot clearer all my questions, as I rarely was the first having that doubt and there is some amazing people commenting there.
That I still have to go to my profile to change between courses with a different base language. I don't think there is a difference if the coins or XP I get are from SpanishEnglish or EnglishFrench. Specially because there is little availability of languages to learn if you don't speak English, so I don't understand why it has to be more difficult switching from SpanishEnglish and EnglishFrench than EnglishSpanish and EnglishFrench. And it bothers me all the info of those courses showing separately all the time. I would like to look at those trees and XPs any time, not just when I enter the specific course. That way I could easily keep a balance between them.
Anyway, I am not against change. It is impossible to keep everybody happy, and maybe people like me who enjoys the gaming part are a minority, and the changes are good for the majority of users. But even if that is the truth, you could think about making 2 versions of the page: for gamer-learners or just learners. I will be glad if my feedback about your page is useful in any way. Thanks for all your effort!!
"Now there is no way to know if the streak includes the current day or not (except taking a lesson). I am sometimes on-line around midnight, and then, next morning, I am unsure if the coins or XP I gained were before or after midnight. I don't want to take a lesson just to check that. (If there is a way, I didn't find it)"
if the flame with the streak count (top right) has a green tick it means you continued your streak that day.
The ones for the sentences have been there, but the discussions for an entire section (that went below the "Tips and Notes" part) are still not there, at least for me.
Yea, that's where people would fully explain the section and concepts in a way the into-the-fryingpan flashcard way of Duolingo couldn't. Not that I don't like the fryingpan method, but seeing popular gripes and all the rules about a relevant topic in one location definitely supplemented the entire process.
I can't see them either. I want them back! I used them to prep for new lessons.
Not for me either. They were very useful, I consider them missing a bug.
After using for the new page for a bit more, I discovered a few things more that I liked:
The instructions inside the answer box in the lessons. I usually don't look up, and I made some mistakes translating the sentence into some other language different from the one asked.
I am writing now in Opera (this mornig I still wasn't able, so that's awesome!)
The keyboard shorcuts for repeating the audio working now fine in Opera (a few months ago it didn't work)
The quit button during the lessons. If there was one before, I didn't know, but I have already used it a few times when I get interrupted or frustrated.
PS: Sorry about not realizing about the green tick and the discussions in the lessons :P
I don't like to have to go to the settings page to change to a course with a different base language too. All courses you are doing should appear in the same menu in the top bar.
I'm fine with the look and you guys obviously know what you're doing. However, as mentioned before there are two key things you took that you do not mention:
1) The ability to correct a mistake and lose just 1/2 heart. This was added not all that long ago and now it is gone. I just don't like the three strikes and you're out method in Duolingo anymore than I do in Federal law. ;)p
2) How hard is it to show us our last mistake? You have a button that ask if we'd like to see it. Why? Who wouldn't want to see their last mistake? After all, you show us the first two mistakes.
Thanks for your consideration.
I had the 1/2 heart method and the whole heart method and I liked having more chances, but it didn't really make a difference to how long I stayed to practice. Ultimately the goal is to do the lesson without losing any hearts :)
The deal with the correcting mistakes, I think, was still in beta (and may still be). I never had it with the old version. They just hadn't made it official and given it to everyone, so maybe they changed the sample group who had it when implementing the new design...
They found it wasn't effective using their metrics(right word?) So took it off, It may be for the best if you think about it, as you fail the lesson if you don't know the content so well and have to redo it again, (hopefully!) burning it into your brain!
Not if you fail because of typos though. I often make these little mistakes and it's frustrating to fail because of that because it has nothing to do with your understanding of the language you are trying to learn.
The half heart system sometimes didn't help because if i new the answer, I wouldn't need it. but I liked having the chance to fix typos. with that said, removing is an increase in difficulty that could hurt. I'd like to see it given further consideration. perhaps minor errors could be a half instead of one size fits all penalty. A thing that bothered me about the half heart system was the situation were you have a half heart, and make mistake. if you would otherwise have a chance to fix it to earn back a half heart to reach 0 hearts, you were failed right away.
They've removed the half-heart thing for now because they found that although people on the forums liked it, it tended to cause other users to stay for less time and so on. It's still under consideration, though.
It's fine to hear something from you personally Luis, but I'm still not convinced. Perhaps the new look is like a website of the future, but for an outsider it looks like a website designed for children. I know someone who believed that Duolingo is something for extremely small kids because of its look, and he definitely meant the new look. As for me, I don't like it. Though there's nothing to do against it, and with time, I'll get used to it. But in my opinion there's a major difference between "liking" and "getting used to" something... Anyways, go Duolingo to language infinity and beyond!
Luis, there's a difference between channelling your inner child and using a website that looks like it is for a child. The eye-jarring colour combinations, the oversize buttons...when I was did a bit of 'skill strengthening' today, the box I was typing in looks like it was pulled straight from a text-book or homework support book used for grade 2-4 students. I encourage you to take a look at one of those "learn to add" books you see in book stores, it looks exactly the same! You can have a sense of fun and wonder without it looking a clone of apps on the market meant for toddlers.
I understand that the big buttons and simplified design work better on an Ipad, but the different platforms are different for a reason; a "one size fits all" approach doesn't look, feel, or work that well on my 13 inch laptop. I'm an adult using a mouse, I don't need gigantic buttons for my fat fingers! ;)
I know you're not going to scrap your entire new design, and I understand some people hate any change at all. Of course you want to improve your program. But in my opinion, this kiddie-aesthetic isn't a good direction. People are actually finding the sizing/colour combinations/text choice quite difficult to use, and making people navigate away to give their eyes a rest. I seriously recommend you consider refining the graphic design that's alienating a lot of your users. EDIT: I can see that the bright white has been toned down to a grey. Thanks. It really does make a difference, I appreciate that you're addressing the feedback here.
If it's been toned down, you could have fooled me. I've gone into my settings and dropped the brightness way down and I'm still finding it too hard on the eyes.
It's still very bright, and that blue is still pretty eyejarring, but the background has been toned down a bit for sure. have you tried installing f.lux? it's helping tone it down further for me.
I haven't noticed any dimming. I have f.lux on my computer and it's still too bright for me. Now I'm wearing sunglasses and I'll see if that helps. There is also a program called EyePro v.30 which is free of charge. It tells you when to take a break to do eye exercises and has filters that go over the screen to reduce glare, but you have to swing the filter aside to type anything. f.lux and sunglasses are what I'm using to cope with the brightness.
I liked the old Duolingo look because this is so bright and hard on the eyes. It took the wind out of my sails for a few days.
Haha, alright I'll try to do so... After all, it's never the system that gets used to its users, but the users get used to the system...
I also think it looks way too little-kid-ish. (As well as rather hideous!) I miss the nice formal way the old design looked, although I expect I'm in the minority there, because I always am :( It's all made up for, though, by the list of vocabulary in each lesson--viewable BEFORE I begin the lesson! Yay! Now, if only Duolingo will provide a place where I can retype my answer correctly if a made a mistake I will be very happy!
I do have one suggestion for improvement, which is to make some things a bit darker. I find the new design has too much solid white, and is much harder on my eyes than the old one (and I'm not nearly elderly yet!)
By-the way, the diagonal stripes on the progress bar to me make it look a lot like the kind of progress bar we all get bored staring at while waiting for files to download/copy/etc. The shiny gold has a much more positive association. No idea if anyone else sees it that way, but I sure do . . .
The more comments I read about the site being too hard on the eyes and simply not as likeable as the old "tree," the less I think we're in the minority. Are you working with a laptop? It seems us laptop users are the least comfortable with the changes.
The minority is often the most vocal :)
Yes, I am on a laptop.
Also, I forgot to mention; I really love the circling loading indicator inside the last "o" of duolingo!
There's a difference between childlike and childish. It does look like a game, that kids could (mine would, if I let them) play, but since when is that a bad thing?
ETA: i have the coins, so I assume I get the old version, though I'm only a week in... But I find the design very cheerful, open and encouraging. Makes me want to come back.
PS- in German, we say 'jammern auf hohem Niveau.' I know Luis asked for feedback, but nitpicking is just that... Nitpicking. DL is free. It's good, it works and it's free.
I love the new design! To me it gives the site a quirky, fun feel that completely matches how I feel about duolingo!
Why did someone disliked this comment? I like the new style too. I don't think someone should be "punished" for that! As I read in a Korean guy's blog, only Japan and Korea let their inner child grow with them and be thrilled (as adults) with cute and childish stuff. Just because I am doing something "serious" like learning it doesn't mean it can't be fun and/or childish as long as I learn anyway. We have enough serious, boring stuff going on daily in our lives, and I am thankful to take a break from that in Duolingo.
Ah you should take your inner child with you everywhere! Love your comments, recently watched a film called "about time", summarised the whole thing about enjoying every moment no matter what! Enjoy the little things in life kids and the whole thing will feel a whole let better ;)
There are two functions missing from the new design that I think will damage learning: 1. The chance to correct mistakes. Before, if I messed up, I had to think again and type, hopefully, the right sentence. Now I just glance at the right answer, which is not as good for learning from my mistake. (I don't care about the half-hearts) 2. The chance to see alternate correct answers. Before, I could type in a literally correct answer and learn an idomatic one. Now I won't even know that my answer is suboptimal.
For Italian from English I never had the possibility to correct mistakes. Some of my students had it (they are French students learning English). I would always have liked that possibility as I think it would be a very valuable learning tool. It was something I always meant to contact the team about and never had the time to so so .... If we could have it now it would be great !
Yes, I'm definitely missing point 2. They once took out the alternate correct answers from showing on the old design, but then put them back in because so many people were asking for them. Now they're gone again on this new version? No me gusta eso. I also don't like the way they now show the correct answer when you get something wrong. It's sometimes very hard to tell exactly what you got wrong (especially on the multiple choice problems), and especially when doing the timed practice and don't have time to look too long.
Thank you and your team for this wonderful free language learning tool. As you can see from my streak, I am a frequent user who joined when Duolingo was in beta and here is my feedback:
Even though I too am a perfectionist, having seen and experienced several changes on Duolingo as well as other Internet sites, over time I've become a believer in "if it is not broken, don't fix it". Each time there is a change, even if nothing is broken, I have to spend extra time to learn about them and get used to them, so there is a cost to me of time and, in some cases, annoyance. Plus the cost of the time it takes for me to give you this feedback and for you to read it and reply to it.
If the changes were only for the better and did not end up breaking or taking away existing features, it wouldn't be so bad. But we all know that nothing (or no new change) is perfect and every time there is a change, there are always some existing functionality that get broken. So that is yet another cost to the user as well as the team who has to fix what is broken.
As for some specifics about this latest change that I've noticed so far:
1) Overall, I don't like the look and feel, especially of the Home page. I don't like the HUGE and widely spaced out skill icons, taking up too much screen space and necessitating too much scrolling.
2) I prefer the old way of seeing my progress, including the weekly progress, over the new graph.
3) I used to be able to see the words strengthened at the end of each practice and each lesson. It was a nice review. But it is gone! I can't see them any more.
4) I did two lessons in "Countries" and noticed that the list of new words for lessons within the skill are not correct on the icons and are intermixed. For example, I learned italiana and Roma in lesson 1 but they are listed in the icon for lesson 2 and I learned europea and norteamericano in lesson 2 but they are listed in the icon for lesson 1. While this does not matter much immediately after doing the lesson, it will matter down the road if I need to practice certain words. It also matters if you are a perfectionist who cares about accuracy.
5) I liked being able to practice words specific to a skill. I also liked seeing list of words learned in a skill and being able to practice the weakest words or choose a specific word to practice. Most of that is gone. :-( Tips and discussions specific to a skill are also gone. :-(
I agree. I can see what they are trying to do but I don't think it's right. It feels like whole site has been dumbed down. Hiding useful information and replacing it with tones of whitespace does not make the software more useful. The old website does not look like it's from 2000, it looks beautiful with the minimal dark navigation bar, a more interesting background muted colours that don't look too bright and lush green widgets.
Even if you like the new colours that is not the point; aesthetics should NOT be prioritized over usefulness.
This is a website millions of people rely on everyday. It's not a marketing brochure. Information maters to us.
Hmmm ... I numbered my comments above to make it easier to read but when I have a dot after the numbers, the numbers are not shown and I lose the look of a list!!! So I had to change the dots to )s .
I'll post an explanation in your stream so you can see it without it converting everything. :)
Well, this redesign is fully according to the sad situation in the software development. The working system is redesigned to be more shining, more jumping, more colourful and more social giving less information and less possibilities to the user.
- Vocabulary - gone
- Strength status bar for every lesson within each skill block - gone
- XP counter for the last 7 days - gone
- Tool tip for each skill block - gone
- X sign for the wrong selection in the "Mark all..." - gone
Discussion for each lesson (with helpful links for resources) - gone Ability to correct mistakes (half hearts) - gone Practice a lesson before concluded - gone List of words learned at the end of a lesson and respective strength - gone Checking friend's progress and tree - gone.
My feedback. The speed is higher. But, in my opinion...
- The home page and other elements would be fine at 60-75% of its size, though not that much for letters.
- The weekly progress (coins stack) was useful to remember if I already practiced a language, since the streak fire icon shows an indication that I have exercised at least one language, but does not display a list for every language, and streaks are counted separately.
- The word strength should be shown for each lesson too, instead of just the whole unit.
- The vocabulary learnt/practiced shown at the end of a lesson was useful, especially for mobile to take note of the new words, and on the web (or mobile too) would be useful to see its meanings too.
- The shiny gold color (indicating word strength) was changed for an ugly light brown or opaque yellow, to not say exactly what it resembled at first view, pardon (or is it just me?). And the new colorfulness of the units is fine, but only visible if I let decay its word strength. I'd try to let see how it looks with just a gold background instead of all-yellow outlined drawing when the unit has full strength of words...
- In an exercise, if I access the discussion, the background (i.e. the exercise) becomes too brilliant, instead of getting obscure as it used to be.
- With IE9 the bell indicating new events does not show the number the way I saw here at Marssy's post http://www.duolingo.com/#/comment/1540215 and by the way, i left there my sort of Spanish version. But I suppose this is a minor detail, browser-specific. As a suggestion, I'd like a night mode to read discussions.
I liked other suggestions and voted them up too.
I agree with all of DuoMail's points. I love this site, but to be a bit critical it appears that the main goal for the redesign was to have a single code set which would work on tablets and phones as well as desktops, not an improved learning experience for the users. When revising software there is seldom a benefit in removing features. Hopefully Duo will react to the many comments to improve this new release.
the more I look at the new layout, the more I'm disappointed : / it's totally demotivating. And I am disappointed even more when I think about that great old duolingo. I generally like changes, but not this one. Now you can tell us that you will fix this and that but what most of us (people who loved old design) really want is just to have an OPTION to choose OLD GOOD SKIN that is totally not 2000s man but beautiful, aesthetic, clear, unique with a character, designed for desktop not a mobile phones or tablets. motivating to work with coins, trophies and funny owls (not childish). Just give us an option to use old CSS (addapted to new functionality) somewhere in settings. I do not expect that you will drop an idea of simplification everything but letting us to use old UI as an option would be quite fair, isn't it?
Hi Luis. Are you going to address the problem of the brightness of the new design?
Hey just found a workaround for the eyeball rending colour combo, another user in another thread recommended I download f.lux. It warms up the colour of your screen in the evening to help you get to sleep easier, and you can use it to tone down the super bright white/blue of the page. Hope this helps!!
EDIT: Ok been on here for about 15 minutes with f.lux on and my eyes are starting to water. It helps, but it's not really a fix. Ugh, this is frustrating.
Yeah, I've got f.lux, and I often set it to night settings during the day if my room is dim. It did occur to me that that might have affected my perception of the page, since I'd expect to be the first in line to complain about excess brightness.
Sorry it isn't working so well for you. I find that adjusting the light level in the room helps sometimes.
f.lux is good but there's still a lot of glare. I've toned it down to nighttime ember and still have my sunglasses on. it's a little dim with the sunglasses but what can I do?
That sounds pretty excessively bright, if you're still not comfortable with your sunglasses. You could go into your monitor's settings and turn the brightness down. :/
Actually, since yesterday Duolingo seems to have dimmed it. Yesterday Duolingo was as bright as Gmail and my bank website . It was true that Duolingo was way too bright for me. I'm also using f.lux and have it on ember nighttime setting. I also am using EyePro 3. That has a filter that can be placed over the screen and that helps too. I liked Duolingo so didn't really want to give up Duolingo.
I've pressed the button on my monitor. It was true, I was using sunglasses.
please only if you could reduce the size of the new skill icons a little bit, the other things are fine
also, the old design looks like anything but a page from the early 2000s
Well, I only used it for a few minutes (before I was kicked out), but I liked the overall design. I think it would help if the team indicated any new improvements that come from the new design. Or were only aesthetics that were changed?
From the little I saw, the site seemed:
- Faster - The site appeared more fluid, it was faster when moving between pages;
- Easier to switch languages - it is easier to change the current languages;
- Clutter free ; and
- To have efficient lesson navigation - Moving from one question to another seemed faster.
I can only wonder what other hidden gems there are...
For naysayers, I believe it is simply resistance to change, in fact this has been researched before:
Very high correlations were found between perceived aesthetics of the interface and a priori perceived ease of use of the system.
 - Tractinsky, N. (1997) Aesthetics and Apparent Usability: Empirically Assessing Cultural and Methodological Issues, CHI 97 Conference Proceedings, Atlanta, March 22-27, 1997), ACM, New York, pp. 115-122.
I'm curious to know about the timeframe for the new vocab page - is it something likely to come in days, weeks, a month, months...?
I am very unhappy about the brilliant white background. It's killing my eyes, giving me a headache and it's very distracting. I'm going through a strengthening exercise on a lesson I did awhile ago and can't get through it. I have tried to get used to the new format, but I'm very disheartened. I have noticed what I think is an improvement, though. Have you done something to make the audio clearer? I can follow it much better than before.
There is a program called f.lux that would help a little and you can try wearing sunglasses, like me.
That's true, however it seems kind of silly to have to download another program to fix one of duolingo's flaws.
In general, I really like the new design. I do have one big complaint, though: I get lessons in one of two fonts, apparently randomly, and one of them is absolutely awful for actually reading. Allow me to illustrate (hopefully I get the image code right...):
A consistent baseline and midline are very important for a font's readability (and yes, I am a UI designer by profession). The "bad" picture shows two different ways that the midline rule is broken, impairing my ability to read easily.
At the moment, if I refresh a lesson enough times, I can eventually get it in a readable font, and proceed...I suspect that's an artifact of the transition, though, and I'm just hoping and praying that the final result ends up with a readable font all the time.
Windows 7, Seamonkey/2.25a2 (same results in Seamonkey/2.23, otherwise I'd be complaining on Bugzilla instead of here). Seamonkey is just Gecko, so you should be able to duplicate the same results on Firefox/28.0a2 (or Firefox/26.0).
Completely agree about the font. The old one is much more legible than the new one. And yes, what's with the new 't'?!
Yeah, there were a few and the old one could definitely have been improved, but for now it is still better than the new one!
I think 99% of my readability problem is caused by how the letter t is smaller than all of the other letters. It's making the site difficult to stay on for very long because trying to read the font is hurting my eyes...
Would it be really difficult to have different selectable fonts, and possibly an "inverted" color option (black background, white text)? There's got to be some kind of code filter thing, instead of having to redo graphics.
Those two options would helps my eye strain problems / instant migraines so much. <3 If not I'll probably try to mod it myself with add-ons to my browser.
you ARE perfectionists, indeed. :) I never stop to be amazed by you guys!
Give him my new design, I want to see my friends' progress and trophies and coins and all that stuff which I took for granted and now I dearly miss.. :)
I had it once, but I have not been able to use it since, the glimpse I got looked very nice :) Both on the iPad and my laptop on a total of four separate browsers. Sometimes I even get the new pre-log-in home page but once inside I always get the old Duolingo. It's strange.
Because the other thread seems to be mostly the place for complaints, I thought I would leave this here: I don't like many things about the redesign, but I have to say that the addition of "you strengthened lesson x!" when reviewing the words via "strengthen skills" is really great and very motivating for people with badly decaying trees (like me). I used to flick back and forth to see if I'd gotten any more gold, but was hard to notice the progress from "mostly bad" to "a bit bad", so I could study for what felt like ages and not feel like I had made much of a dent. Now I get the "you fixed something a bit!" feedback right away and it's very motivating. I agree with posters in the other thread about certain other changes being less motivating, but I think with this one, and with the addition of the graph to the end of every lesson/practice, you have really come up with a solid improvement. Thank you for this!
I really appreciate Duolingo. It's a great site. I've been using it to learn French for about 3 months. I prefer it to the program I paid for.
At various times I've used different approaches to work with the information, depending on what seems to be the most helpful to keep me going, when I am getting discouraged.
For example, over the past week, I've been using timed practice (which I had not before). So, for me, doing this, it's (was) really motivating to see how many gold coins I could pile up in a day, and try to beat the total of the day before. So, like a lot of others, I really miss the gold coins- as a way to check daily success. A great motivator.
Yes, a graph shows up at the end of a timed practice, but it really isn't as helpful, because there is no permanent record. So I have to write it down. Plus, the number of points only shows up for the latest data point. And sometimes the data point shows up, but not the number (a bug, I assume). But, no numbers available for previous points on the graph, and given the scaling, that is hard to determine.
Like many others, I also miss the vocab page. It seems it is coming back, and I hope it returns with the functionality it had before. For example, being able to find a word, and practice that word with a small number of questions. That was so helpful to me, especially if I only had a small amount of time to work on Duolingo. So, knowing I could do "just a little" and still make progress was greatly motivating too, like the coins.
I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that people (me a least) use Duo in different ways, at various times in their progress. And, this flexibility has kept me going.
I would also add, as a practical matter, that in the new look, it is very hard to see the difference between different accents on different letters.
And, like others, I miss the connecting lines between lessons- but that is a minor matter.
One last thing- to think about for the future- being as I am using timed practice right now, it would be very useful to be able to go back and see all my previous answers after the time ends. Right now, I can do this only if I answered one question, and got it wrong. I know this would be a new feature, but it would be very helpful. I actually copy and paste my wrong answers (and the correct answers) into an excel spread sheet, so I can review them- helpful for learning.
Related to above, copying and pasting, the new placement of the correct answers at the very bottom of the page makes this more cumbersome, as to copy all of it in one "copy" choice means I end up with the letters with accents on the keyboard also.
I must say that I really did like the previous look, sorry to those who put all the hard work in this new format. The color choices are difficult, white on off white is difficult to use and hard on my eyes. For myself I find it much easier to have a non white background, (a light grey, beige or something like that) if I am going to be working on the page a lot. The lack of edging to the icons, text boxes and other items does not look as good as before. Before they looked like crisp and clear high definition features but now they look kind of like 2D pastel features. This all amounts to a reduced amount of contrast between the icons and the background which is now harder on the eyes. Some of the new features are like the graphs are nice. I am not sure if this version is finished or close to finish but the product does not look as refined as before. It looks rough now.
Just for your feed back loop, but I was more excited to jump onto duolingo with the old format.
With all that said I really want to thank everyone at duolingo. What you are doing is awesome, it is wonderful and really important. You are helping so many people. Please keep up the great work!! Thanks
I'm with you all the way. There is nothing wrong with change but I personally had no visual problems with the old version, whereas I just can't work with the new one, for any time at all. If we could have the positive changes with the old visuals I'd be a lot happier.
Agreed. I've been using the new design for a few days now, and I'm liking it less everyday. It's hard on my eyes, meaning I find myself less motivated to practice. Since it's free, I feel bad critiquing, but at the same time, I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this redesign is. But Len_H put my feelings about the visuals into much better words than I could.
Duolingo is a great website - I've used it for almost a year and have recommended it to several people - but the new design is so cartoonish that there are a lot of places where I would no longer feel comfortable mentioning that I use it. The old design was basic, but it was a good combination of whimsical and professional. I was comfortable recommending it to friends' children or business associates. As the site looks right now, I'd no longer feel comfortable mentioning it in a professional setting, because it looks like a silly game for children.
Also, I miss the ease of checking daily progress on the home screen and being able to easily click on practice on each skills page before completing a unit. I use those features more than anything else, and I'm stumped as to why they've been removed. I found the /practice workaround, but why make it complicated?
Hi. I'd just like to say, the new Duolingo looks more like something that would be on a tablet or phone. I like the discussion setup now, but the tree doesn't work nearly as well for me. The large icons are my major issue with that part. In a lesson, the text is a bit small for me, and I did prefer it the old way, with the black and white and green. In immersion, which I admittedly do not do very often, the layout is quite similar and I like it. Just my two cents :)
Nope, sorry, I've tried to use it but I hate it. I get the feel it has been designed for use on a phone and not a full size PC which is where I am. Really guys. Please, Please, Please can I go back to the old version. I've given up for today. I'm not enjoying it as I usually do.
Unfortunately this is the future. More and more websites are redesigning around Tablets and Phones and it's a shame that PC users are getting the bottom end of the stick.
A true online innovator would create MULTIPLE styles for various formats of browsing... cough cough, Duolingo. Why don't you just allow the users to CHOOSE between the tablet style and the original PC style?
Why don't you just allow the users to CHOOSE between the tablet style and the original PC style? Yeah
The fonts either need to be darker (especially the yellow) or the background needs to be toned down--so much white!! It is very blinding on computer screen. Other than that, it's a little hokey with all the large icons. I feel like I am on one of my daughter's LeapFrog tablets.
I lost the passion to DL (have 170 days streak), from now on I will use this resource only periodically
I'm fighting with that same issue myself. I'm sort of wondering if I shouldn't just stop at this point, even given how much of a waste that would be when I quickly forget most of what I learned.
DL was very useful to get from scratch to beginner and I'm very thankful to the team for it. Now I can use other resources on the internet which i.m.o are better to achieve intermediate level.
I liked it the way it was and was becoming an addict. Don't like the the pre-school appearance, the lack of lists and the way the site worked which I found intuitive. I'm very disappointed so I'm sorry to say that I'm moving on. I'll check back and see if you bring back the old site.
I'm sorry, but comments like these are extremely disappointing to me. Hate to generalize you all but you can't take this change? It's a large one, yes, but it doesn't really affect the way you are learning languages better than you can in most other places.
Sorry you're disappointed in the way I feel. It is what it is. The old site was working very well for me and the new one doesn't. Can't satisfy everyone and that's fine.
But it does affect the way we are learning languages. It's kind of like watching TV on your old comfy couch, and then having someone bring in a shiny new plastic one and throwing yours away. Comfort level plays a huge factor in how much time you will spend on a website.
Thank you for your post, Luis! I hope that, in addition to usability on smaller screens and trophies, Duolingo plans on restoring other features such as viewing other users' trees, and skill discussions (maybe a link to Discussions from the skill main page, in order to keep it streamlined). These are the two big features I am missing, personally. :)
I like the redesign, but I think that it's way too big (in text size and design size). If it was smaller, that would be much appreciated.
1) I realise you’ve said that the vocab is coming back when you’ve found a better way to integrate it but if there is any way you could bring back the old page or vocabulary sections on the skill pages in the mean time that would be fantastic. I use these all the time to really get the vocab in my head and to learn spelling, definitely missing them.
2)I loved the ‘correct your mistake’ option which seems to have disappeared. It was a very useful tool. So to was the ‘alternative correct answer(s)’ they added nuance and helped with understanding how sentence structure could relate to meaning. I hope you can find a way to add these to the new design.
Still think this is a wonderful site :)
I agree with you and I just want to add one thing that I just noticed. Sometimes I get so caught up in the language that I use the wrong language for the answer by accident. It used to let you know you made that mistake and give you the opportunity to fix it. Now it just counts it as wrong.
So your test group was made up of all new users, right? Were you able to compare their first few weeks of activity to the first weeks of activity of older users? I'd just like to check because monitoring only new users doesn't seem like the most reliable method. I think it's pretty typical for users anywhere to be more active immediately after they've signed up for a new site; I would think staying power would take quite a bit longer to evaluate.
This is exactly the question I wanted to ask. When I first signed up I was waaaay more active than I am now.
I am revising on four languages and set myself a target of a certain number of points in each language every day. I like to swap between the languages and study at lots of different times during the day. Before today I could easily see how close I was to my target by just flicking from one language to another and looking at the piles of coins. Now I have to do a lesson before I know how many points I have in just one language. That is a big nuisance.
First of all, thank you for creating this wonderful tool. I am a huge fan of DuoLingo, so much that as soon as my time allows me I will probably join one of the language teams, because I love languages, and because I consider giving back to a community, that helped me to acquire a new language, and will help me to acquire several more, the right thing to do.
This out of the way, there are a couple of things in the new design that are simply broken, not as a matter of opinion but as a technical fact. Here they are:
Enter button sometimes doesn't work in Firefox in comments (EDIT:I was unable to reproduce the condition since I reopened Firefox, but once it reaches that state it stays that way in every Duo tab no matter what I do.), ie all I could enter is a big blob of text. I had to use IE (...) because I wanted my bullet list.
Sometimes pressing Enter in Firefox plays a sentence from a lesson that you can't see or access.
Discussions in lesson pages are gone. This is awful, because there were some very, very useful hints in some of those, like grammar explanations, which were sometimes the only thing that allowed people to understand what the hell they were doing, e.g. in the last couple of Spanish lessons.
There is no useful link to the incubator page any more
The complete lack of warning or recovery options when you navigate away from a lesson by accident, either in the Android app or in the browser. It happens a lot because some browsers react by going back when you press the back button when your mouse focus is in the wrong place. It is not a difficult technical feat to avoid this - everyone does it (e.g. google mail as one of the most popular examples), that makes its absence twice as annoying to everyone of us who codes.
The correct answers in the timed lessons appearing as a little side note at the bottom of the browser window where I can't see them. (Yes, this happens only on small screens.)
From here on it is opinion territory, so it is not very useful, but I'll try anyway:
I would really like the correction or the "you are correct" to appear closer to the sentence, especially in the Timed Practice. Otherwise i don't have the time to look or even scroll down to see what I did wrong. This makes timed practice uninteresting for me apart from the fact that it allows me to maintain my streak with minimal effort (one point...)
I don't know whether you measured user retention past course completion with or without the vocab page, that might have been interesting. I for one miss the ability to check on the vocabulary decay. I was using this extensively when I was getting close to the end of the tree, and when the tree is finished that is really the only thing left, apart from translations, since practicing single skills is inefficient.
I miss my weekly progress coinstack on the front page. (Only one element - today - really needed to be updated on every reload, so it is sad that it was sacrificed).
I like the very visible Strength indicator in the lessons. However, ITS SIZE IS REALLY WAY OVER THE TOP
Overall: I am a gaming addict, and for casual games I sometimes love jewely-transparenty-glitzy designs if they are done right (I know, I should be ashamed). So theoretically I would consider myself your target audience. But... in fact, of the three designs you tried on me so far, I liked the OLD design - and I don't mean the intermediate green design with the flat icons, I mean the OLD OLD design with the skill tree!) the best so far -- and was very, very disappointed to see it replaced. I still miss it, because I see no improvement from the green design to the current one. Yes, things move more, but honestly, due to the flatness of everything it is not any more attractive to me graphics-wise than a blank white page with black text - in fact, I'd probably prefer the latter to the enormous, gaudy buttons.
(As an aside or full-disclosure: Obviously I am not with the Windows 8 "let's make everything look new and different by making it FLAT (because the last ones of the guys who celebrated the Athena widgets' novel 3D look in the 80es after decades of everything being flat have finally retired, and we are too young to remember it)" camp. In fact I consider it an enormous step backwards in usability/accessibility/GUI design, but I guess I am just getting old.)
Yes, it's just opinion but I agree. The old version, visually, is superior. This is too hard on the eyes. The blue and white is far too bright to work on for long. I'm surprised that some commenters don't find it too bright! Must be very young eyes. I like the new icons though they could be smaller, to allow more on the screen without having to scroll. Lots of glitches, but they can be ironed out with time. There have been some really good suggestions on these discussions.
yes, the discussion and vocabulary of each lesson are gone and it was no good. I just hope you put it back.
Yeah, I'm scared that the unit discussions are gone for good D: I want my "Congratulations all, our little world" thread back :P
Absolutely. And Mirriel's list of proverbs in all languages. And many others :-/
And another thing that is broken, as well as a feature request:
"Edit" window is tiny in IE and Firefox on Windows. It shows something like five lines of text. That text I wrote up there is very, very annoying to edit.
I wouldn't have to edit things half the time, if there was a "PREVIEW" button. (This is the feature request :-)
I was able to get the correct answers in the timed lessons out from off the bottom of the screen by changing the zoom to 90%. Not ideal, but it works.
I didn't see much in the way of enhancements. In fact some features seemed to be reduced. The new design does not allow you to see your weekly history, except for a few fleeting seconds after you complete a section. The old design also told you what sections and subsections to work on to strengthen your skills, the new design only indicates what section (NOT what subsections) to work on.
What new features were provided?
After the weekly history page automatically advances, there are three buttons near the bottom of the page. If you click on the left button, you can go back to the history page. It's not clear to me whether this is automatic advancement to the second page is a bug or a feature. For me at least, it doesn't automatically advance to the third page.
Often, sadly, when I was the boss, the real boss, I thought, the computer techies would redesign things without caring what the users wanted. It drove us all crazy, but I guess made them feel good. Sure we'll get use to this, and sure I try to stay away from Facebook. But I don't think this redesign was anything the users wanted.
Hey, can u bring back the old Duo? This one looks to..... to CHEAP. the older one looked more pro :/
I so liked being able to practice words specific to a skill.
I liked seeing list of words that I learned in a skill and being able to practice my weakest words and to choose a specific word to practice.
So sad to see these changes...
I'd just like to relate a frustratingly clear example of how bad it was to remove vocabulary (I know; it's supposedly coming back). Maybe this helps to explain some uses for it (since clearly that was not understood by the team) and might indicate the urgency of its return.
I was taking lunch and wanted to practice with the android app. One of the sentences it gave me was: "This is a cat." Simple, right? I answered, "Diese ist eine Katze."
Apparently that's wrong. Instead, it is "Dies ist eine Katze." I have no idea why; I've not gotten to a point where I'm comfortable with diese/dieser/etc yet. I chose Diese because it was conjugated for a feminine subject. Normally, I'd consult the vocab list to attempt a brush-up of my understanding of the word. I was on the app, so that's already a problem -- there's no vocab list. But now, there isn't one on the web either. Uh oh! So I figured I would look to see what discussion might be saying; almost every time, someone else inquires about the same misunderstanding I've had. But nope, the android app no longer gives me discussion for some reason. It used to work. Beyond that, I cannot easily type in a Report on the app longer than one line, unless I continually touch the text box between every word, and then type blind past line two, because the keyboard (google keyboard) obscures the box.
I continued on, and ran into more sentences like "this is not my horse" and "this animal is thirsty." I tried Das and it wanted Diese. I tried Dies and it wanted Das. For some reason it has peculiar and exact rules, and I clearly I do not know these terms well enough. But how am I to focus on them now? How am I to look up their meanings and usage? Google translate? Great at comprehension, but terrible at teaching. Some other language education site? I should not have to, not with DuoLingo, but currently I have no other choice. I cannot force the same sentences to come back on the desktop app in order to read the comments, and beyond that, I can't look up the words anymore, words which I earned over the slow and difficult weeks and months, because the vocab list is gone.
And it's not just Dieser. After I started failing at other concepts that are new-ish to me, and I could not in any way find proper course correction, I gave up and came here to type this.
And this does not even touch on the pride/carrot-on-a-stick I get from my growing list, or the personal control I get from knocking out anything that's not full gold, or the human touch, something software cannot understand.
I cannot learn from DL the way I need to right now, so I will be maintaining where possible (hope I don't run into Dieser anymore!) and anxiously awaiting promised fixes. I hope that the new vocab truly is an improvement and does not take power out of the users' hands. Whatever you might wish to add, keep the straight list as well. It is (was) the strongest and only tool we have here to truly tailor our own teaching to how we choose and need. I implore you only to add and not remove, and do not always trust your studies. Algorithms and metrics cannot reveal everything.
With Scottish humour it is a lovely day except for the howling wind and the pouring rain..
is part of the new design that there is not more "Fanfare" when you complete a lesson? As soon as the last question is answered, the program just sits there. It used to tell you the score, tell you how many points you just earned, and give you a little congratulations. Now it just shows the last question and holds it. It's very unsatisfying. I'm not sure if the game is freezing and I'm not sure if it counted any of my practice.
Another major issue: I always loved how it would say "Pay attention to the accents!" and then it would SHOW you the correct accents. Now it still says "pay attention" but it doesn't SHOW ME THE CORRECT WAY! How am I supposed to learn?!?
I still got a fanfare (at least when I redid a lesson I have done before; dunno about new ones), and I still got shown the correct accents when I forgot some. So just like before.
This is what I get on my screen when I complete a lesson:
During a lesson, after I submit my translation, the word's text turns orangish or red and tells me I left off an accent mark or that I had a typo.
If you have the new layout but aren't getting these aspects, either I'm in a test group or you're experiencing some technical difficulty and might want to report it to Troubleshooting. :)
yeah, it's actually working for me now. For the first day, it never went to either of those pages... it just froze. And it wasn't my internet, because I was still able to view other pages and refresh the page. it's better now.
So far I don't really like the changes. But I guess that's a very subjective thing - I like excel tables and things that are well structured. The old Duolingo suited my taste very well, the new one seems much more "playful" and dynamic, which might increase fun and/or motivation for some people, but to me it seems just distracting and off-putting. It would be great to be able to switch back to the old theme, but I guess I'll see whether I'm going to get used to it..
Most importantly however, please incraese the contrast! Using very light gray tones on a white background is not a good idea. :( Most notably on the progress bar when practicing - you see the amount of questions you've answered in green, and the ones yet to come in #F3F3F3 = 95% white, which results in me not being able to see them at all on any of the three monitors I've tried it on, and I surely won't change my display settings just because one website changed its design. :/
It hurts my eyes! Literally! Too much contrast. I don't like the page this way. (I hope there will be some color themes.) Not to mention that I constantly feel the need to scroll on this new design, I can't really "find my place". And about the platform unification stuff: there should be a m.duolingo.com and a simple duolingo.com, so everybody got the appropriate content. I personally hate this touch-style, I think that the traditional PC-s and UI-s won't disappear... they are waaaay more efficient. And a really bothering new thing is that the correct solution is shown only at the bottom. It should be right below my answer. But hey, that's just my opinion...
Not a fan of the new design. I don't stay on as long, the colors are distracting. Where's the vocabulary words and also missing is an overview of the verb formation. This greatly helped understand what was going on. I liked the old tree. Not sure what was so broken. New users just don't know what they are missing from the old design.
Couldn't you fix whatever was "broken" put using the previous design.
Last word, I really don't like those orange circles, the pictures are harder to see and progress doesn't really tell you much. Plus not sure which words you are practicing, the old screen zeroed in on the areas you were weak.
I love the new look! Do miss vocabulary though. My only problem so far is I cannot scroll down a discussion which is linked to a lesson question. The inner scroll bar does not work at all.
That's super! Found a workaround for the scrolling issue too. Click onto the discussion and use the arrow keys (Firefox).
I really like the new design! Although, I've noticed that on the lessons when you open a drop-down box to select your answer, it's all blank, until you hover your cursor over the box. I haven't seen this before, I just thought I'd point it out in-case it's a bug!
I've had this problem as well, and some of the choices don't show up at all!
I'm missing the vocab. Understand why its not there, but it certainly helped for those words that took me forever to remember.
Hi First of all I would like to thank you for your comment and your reassurance. Thank you for reading our comments and above all for taking note of our feedback ! Thank you also for listening to our negative comments and for reacting to them. I DO know how hard it can be to accept negative feedback when you have worked SO hard and SO long. Thank you for the improvements you have made already to the new look site. The icons on my tree are already clearer than they were this morning. I joined Duolingo because it was recommended to some of my students by a friend. They all found it so great I decided I would join and see what they were up to so I joined to a) revise the little Italian I knew and progress and b) follow my students progress (I teach French and English mainly to adults but also to teens). Since joining I have regularly recommended Duolingo to ALL my group which over a week must cover between 150 and 170 people. All those who have tried Duolingo love it (except 2 but one of them doesn't like anything). So I am looking at the site from two points of view - as a learner and as a teacher following some students. From a learner's point of view : - I would like to have the vocabulary page again and the practice your weakest words. I know we still have skills practice but on the vocabulary page we could even select ONE word to work on. I found the vocabulary page very interesting as a learner and as a teacher recommended it to my students. I see from your posts that you are working on putting the vocabulary back and hope it will be sooner rather than later. -At the end of the lessons I used to have a sort of parchment that unfolded with the words I had learned or strenghtened. I used to spend time studying this and found it useful. I do not seem to have it anymore. Are you thinking of putting it back ? - I had an Owl for my French and I would love to have him back (pride thing). - I do enjoy the game and fun part of the site but I am not too bothered about losing the "coins". - scrolling down to see the correction for my wrong answer is a bit of a nuisance but perhaps that is something you are working on - the lesson discussions are often very helpful and I have been given very useful links on one or two occasions. Unfortunately I can non only see the first comment in any discussion and if I post can't see my own post in the discussion so I am not sure it has been posted and I have been critisized for reposting a question that had already been asked ...... as I couldn't see it, it is difficult to know that someone has already asked it. I see other people have posted about this so hopefully it is only a glitch that will soon be sorted. From a teacher's point of view - I like to see my student's trees to know what they are working on - before when one of my students commented or asked a question in a discussion and I saw it in my stream (now activity) I could click on it and answer their query if I knew the answer .... now I do not seem to be able to do that. Is that going to be fixed too ?
My last point is also a personal one but I have seen a couple of other posts about it too ..... this morning I had to stop after one exercise because the blue words or blue boxes seemed to be reverberating on the screen and it was too tiring for my eyes. Is there anything I can do about that ? I used to do a couple of exercises in the morning, then maybe one or two at lunchtime and three or four revision exercises in the evening, when I didn't get home too late. If my eyes get tired so quickly I won't be able to do so much. Is there anything I can do to make it less tiring ?
Thanks. Will go and do an exercise now.
I had the redesign yesterday, but intended to explore it more today when I had more time. But now it's gone back to the old version?? Can't really judge from my very brief experience of it, but I only hope that the getting a half-heart back when you correct a mistake thing hasn't really gone. That is (was?) one feature that I really love(d?).
Just want to point out 3 things that I miss.
Firstly, the discussions in a particular skill, these discussions really help to clarify some doubts before doing the lessons. They also give many useful tips to avoid confusion when doing the lessons.
Secondly, the ability to practice the skill before one completes the skill. It helps to strengthen words that are just learnt.
The half-hearts thing was also a great help.
Please bring them back, thanks. By the way, keep up the good work!
I agree with these points. It has become very difficult to learn and practice words I have difficulty with.
Well I've tried it on a tablet and on my PC and I have to say that on a tablet its better. But on a PC its hopeless. Please please give us the option of using the previous skin which worked so much better on a PC. The new icons etc are clearly designed to be 'touched' but using a 'mouse' they are simply annoying, too big, too much white space and endless scrolling up and down during each lesson.
I'll start off by saying I don't like the majority of the redesign. I admit, much of what I don't like is simply what I'm not used to. I imagine in a few days I won't care at all really. What I can say with absolute certainty needs to be fixed is the in-learning area. It needs be far more similar to the way it was prior. I liked having corrections immediately beneath my incorrect sentence. It made it easier to see what I did right and what I did wrong, and made it easier for me to figure out why it was wrong. As it is currently, I have to fully shift my field of vision, and I get an almost doorway effect as I try to look at the right answer versus my wrong answer. It has too many seams, if you will. This holds for most of the "questions" in the learning portion. The multiple choice is far more difficult to tell what sentence was right and what sentence was wrong.
Thanks so much Luis! Your duolingo experts are right; my sisters and I love the site and want to come back to it MORE than the other site. With the previous minor bugs gone, this design is awesome!! :D
If I still see the old design, when will I be switched to the new one? Thank you for everything!
Enjoy using the old one while you can. Once you get into the new one, you'll find out how much you miss the old one.
I absolutely love the new design. The only complaint I have that hasn't been talked about much is the color scheme. I dig the bright blues and stuff, but it's a little harsh on the eyes. I had to turn the brightness down on my computer all the way, which did help a bit. Other than that, keep up the good work.
For me, scrolling in the tree is rather sluggish now. And it seems I have to scroll more because the single items became larger and less of them fit on one screen, so this is an unfortunate combination. I'm using Firefox 20 on Linux.
I miss how it used to show categories and skill levels that might need a revisit to brush up on. The 4 quartered bar would be lit up according to how recently (or perhaps how long ago) you attempted a specific challenge. Any chance that will be re-added?
Follow up to what I think you're describing:
I use Duolingo in the classroom and loved that students had the option to see which precise lesson (and I mean component part of the unit itself) was rustiest, and then to spend some time with small-size targeted practice as opposed to strengthening the overall lesson, which can lend itself to frustration (also offers one more way to differentiate instruction). I wonder if others feel that an indication of which lessons are going down can be useful.
Also excited to see this group option! One of my ways to keep up with students' meeting checkpoints was to check their tree weekly--I'll just have them send me screen shots until it's ready though.
Love the new design and the continual improvements--thank you as always.
They're still passing it out. You'll probably have it within the next couple of days.
I had the new one for a few minutes...then it reverted to the old one. That was Monday night. I still have the old one.
With the new version, I cannot see my daily progress. Also, will we ever be able to see our strength of individual lessons again? It helps to know which lessons to retake.
The display is really large and I'm finding that I am doing more scrolling - especially on the home screen. Is there any way to make it smaller?
I think that a lot of things about the new layout are very positive. I don't feel that it was necessary to be quite so cartoon-inspired, but that's only questionable design rather than a huge offense. The extremely high contrast and high brightness color choices without alternative options built in was just bad decision making by the designers.
If there were an option for a somewhat more neutral color-scheme, I'd be reasonably content because at least the default colors would probably no longer have the potential to be quite so literally (as in, I do not mean this figuratively) painful to look at.
It wouldn't be a fantastic looking site, but at least it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad (most of the Internet is kinda ugly, it's not a deal-breaker)
The last couple of days, I'm only logging in because I force myself to do so. I'll probably end up toughing it out, just because I've already put in this much time and giving up on what I've learned so far would be a massive waste. If I were back in the first month still, though, I think I'd honestly just stop visiting.
I'm struggling a little with the idea that one of my leisure/self-fulfillment activities revolves around a website that makes me feel uncomfortable. It's possible I should just stick to the apps (which aren't the very best, but at least they're relatively small compared to the screens I use for my computer, so the intensity of the effect is dampened).
If it had been like this from the very first visit, I suppose I'd have immediately reconciled myself to the fact that the site requires additional browser plugins to make it usable.
"The last couple of days, I'm only logging in because I force myself to do so. I'll probably end up toughing it out, just because I've already put in this much time and giving up on what I've learned so far would be a massive waste. If I were back in the first month still, though, I think I'd honestly just stop visiting.
I'm struggling a little with the idea that one of my leisure/self-fulfillment activities revolves around a website that makes me feel uncomfortable."
This! Totally agree.
I'm sight-impaired and have tried the new layout with all three of my browser-readers, including mobile. It's got problems on all three...maybe trying to parse through the graphics while keeping text in the correct order? I can use still use Duolingo but it's headache-inducing so I spend less time on the site. Maybe reader-tech is also stuck in the early 2000's, but it's all I've got.
How can you expect people to take time to adjust to the new site enough to get used to it, when it physically hurts to look at the screens. It is a real pity because Duolingo WAS a great site. You say you look at the metrics, good for you but you certainly don't listen to your users.
I very much so agree. Why is everything so big? Why is my page loading at the rate of molasses? Why am I being bombarded with so many buttons and different colors? Why does the "skill tree" no longer look like a tree? It's just too much. It's not aesthetically pleasing, it's not functionally pleasing. It's a giant mess, no doubt concocted for the purpose of appealing to Tablet users.
There is some serious logical ineptitude on their behalf. Take for instance the claim that the people who got this redesign months ago, "shared" and "learned" faster than with the old design. Did you ever take into account, Duolingo, that the people who "shared" and "learned" faster were the people who were NEW, and thus excited about the site and eager about it? I've known about Duolingo for over a year now. At first, I was crazy about it and couldn't stop using it. As months passed, I became far more nonchalant about it. I didn't spend nearly as much time with it, nor was I in such a rush to learn everything. I went at my own pace, and did not suffer from a hype.
Pretty much what this means is that Duolingo is flipping off their long-time users.
Ah, so that's what's gone wrong! Sorry guys, I love Duolingo but the upgrade isn't working well for me. I cannot see how many questions I have left to go. I cannot use the microphone. It will not load in Google chrome. How can I get back to the old version for now?
To be honest my reaction is that I dont like the new interface because it looks so childish.
The old one looks more professional.
I absolutely agree. Find it hard to take it seriously. I've been trying but I think I'm ditching the site which is a shame. Will check back from time to time to see if it improves. Not hopefull since I think it's going in the wrong direction.
As many others, I think that these new visuals are very childish, they also lag more on my poor PC, even the old ones lagged a bit, it would be more acessible if there were an option for very very basic visuals... Thanks for all!
I really appreciate that the keyboard shortcuts on questions with a choice AND a word to type now work. That's when you have to choose a gender and type the word. You had to use the mouse for the gender before. Now typing 1, 2, or 3 works. Thanks.
I really like that kind of attitude! Not stopping when it works, but continuing to improve it to make sure that it's as good as possible. I'll miss the old design, but this new design sounds like it'll work really well. Maybe I'll finally be able to convince my friends to learn some languages here! :D
One issue I've been experiencing involves quickly switching between different tabs. Start on the Home page, then click the Discussion tab, and then quickly click the Home tab again. You'll end up on the Discussion page, but the Home tab will be highlighted.
Now that the glitch is fixed that kept me from completing a lesson and seeing the graph, I must say I liked the coins a lot better. More fun. Easier to find and see.
Squilly line(like that) for typos are gone. You said in a lecture on youtube how popular the crying owl was even calculating the amount to tears. I miss him!
I just encountered what I see as another problem with either the new design or possibly the old one. Definitely not being able to know which lesson within each skill block, is the lesson I am weak at, is a step backwards. Now your forced to strengthen skill blocks by using the strengthen skill sidebar test. And once you go into that sidebar test and choose timed practice, I've had skill blocks that were half filled with gold bars, totally fill with gold bars after a time practice session were I answered only two questions. Something which before by doing the lessons took me an hours of redoing those old lessons? I don't think this is helping me strengthen those old words.
A couple of bugs I haven't seen yet reported.
In multiple choice questions you used to be able to 'tab' to the correct answer/s and hit the spacebar to tick the box, and then 'enter' to check/continue. This no longer works. You can now type the number of the option to tick the box but this opens up a bug in the programming. In Firefox at least as well as selecting the option typing opens up the quick search box and locates the number anywhere on the page. So say I type '2' for the second option and I've got a '2' in my lingot store count, Firefox finds this number in the lingot store count - then when I hit 'enter' to check it opens the lingot store instead and all progress is lost (there's no going back). Okay, sure I can just use the mouse, but this is another loss of usability when I used to just be able to use keyboard shortcuts.
The new graph at the end of the lesson doesn't show down-lines (i.e., if you've done less than on the previous day), only the up-lines. Maybe this is a local issue (Windows, Firefox) as I've seen some other screenshots here that do show the down-lines. While on the graph I saw one of the administrators (maybe Luis) say something about the new graph giving more consistency across platforms as opposed to the old coins that many liked on the website. I don't understand this explanation, as in the latest iOS app update the graph that now is used on the website was discontinued in favour of a continually increasing line graph. So it isn't consistent. FWIW, of the two graphs I prefer the one now used on the website and would like to see that returned to the app.
And briefly some basic feedback. I have been using the DuoLingo app for almost three months, but the website for only about three weeks. When I first started using the website version I thought it looked a bit more primitive and old-fashioned, but actually quickly found myself using it far more than the app. The main reasons?
Typing on the keyboard and using the keyboard shortcuts were quicker and easier than typing in the app (as mentioned above some of that functionality has now been removed).
The discussion with the questions are interesting but are not available in the app (now hard to access as the site doesn't fit properly on a standard laptop screen).
The vocab feature, while not perfect, was very handy and informative (feature now removed).
The word-count, which I found very motivating, was axed on the last update of the app (why??), but still appeared on the website. At least that's still there in this update, but now I wonder when that too will be removed.
I have very much enjoyed using Duo over the last several months, but overall am disappointed in this update. While I am not opposed to the new look and can understand why there is a desire for consistency across platforms, I simply cannot understand why so much functionality has been removed from the website, and why so much of the update seems to have been virtually untested, e.g., how could you possibly have failed to test it on a standard laptop resolution to see the scrolling issue that so many people have mentioned as soon as it went live? I will continue using DL, and am grateful for this wonderful free resource, but will probably revert to mainly using the app, as despite it's limitations (now far fewer incidentally with the loss of functionality here) that is now a considerably more pleasant user experience.
You removed the word lists.
I really liked the word lists. I could go into each lesson and hear what the word sounds like when spoken and see examples of it in use. It was equally great to scan over the lists of words in each lesson as a mental check of how I feel about each of them.
I could go on with the things that I don't like but this one loss is just too much.
I'm a KISS (keep it simple stupid) kind of guy and not computer savvy. The old site worked very easily for me and it was becoming addictive. I was having fun and learning Spanish at the same time. I was missing working on it while the site was down. I do not like what I see and will probably go to another system. Too bad and I have been recommending the site to others. I'll keep trying but I'm not hopeful. Everybody has there on way of learning and I like lists and working through them. Now that approach doesn't seem to be available. No vocabularly section is mistake in my opinion.
I'm sad. I understand why you did it, and I'm so sad that I am in the wrong side of your statistics.
While the new design is very nice, there are no new features, and many of the features I (and many others) relied on are missing (weekly progress, vocab page, discussion for sections, friends and strangers achievements..).
Also, the new design, while pretty, is not easy on the eyes, to say the least. I find myself spending less and less time here.
Yeah, I probably belong to that small group you saw in your statistics, the one that used the site less.
And I'm sad.
Did we just lose the ability to correct answers for one half of a heart? I'd like that back. It made mistakes more valuable for learning in that I could engage with and correct misconceptions immediately vs. filing a mental note away for (hopeful) later use.
Hi Luis, the new version looks pretty but the old one was easier to navigate with. I found it easier in the old version to see my progress and to see on whick skills I have to work more. Maybe you can get some of the old features back and keep the general design of the new one. Anyway I find duolingo a great tool to learn languages. Thanks a lot for all the effort!
I love Duolingo, I use it DAILY and A LOT, but I think the colors and the layout of the new site make it look like a child's game!!!! Why did you ruin a wonderful site? Where are the coins? It is hard to read! I don't even use the accents anymore because I can't distinguish between them! Today and yesterday I used it less and less. It has been ruined!
I feel like I'm looking into a hospital with all of this brightness. Could we get an option to get a darker interface?
Is there actually a chance to get (possibly in the future) to get some kind of a 'choose layout' button? I mean, two layouts were already coexisting for some time, maybe it would be possible to let people who wish to migrate, migrate, and those who don't want it, stay with the old design? I'm actually using Opera 12, which is discontinued, and I'm happy with it. I guess I could be happy with Duolingo if it was in text mode only. But I understand that new layout is more popular - this is great. But giving us a choice would be even better. ;) You don't have to keep the old design up to date - we will all move eventually. But take a look at Windows XP popularity. Old isn't always worse. Especially for people in not-so-rich regions of the world (they are not so far from you!), who can have problems with more graphics - heavy designs.
I like the 'never settle' thing. I just want to sometimes sit on a meadow and look at the trees. ;)
I really like BlindKitty's suggestion. Would it be possible to have the choice to stick with the old version. The new version is simply horrible, sorry. I cannot think of a nice way to say it. What were you thinking. The more I use it the more of a hard time I have with it. The colors are terrible, the corrected sentence is now far away from the entered answers, there are delays in the audio that were not there before. I was really addicted to duolingo and looked forward to jumping on all the time. Now I am just trying to stick with it but it is just brutal to use now.
I feel really bad criticizing as DL is a free site and wonderful but why did you do this????
Hate it. I really liked your old web design. As soon as I opened your old home page I knew what I had done and what was left, where I had to go back to strengthen. This new web design looks like a child's colouring page. Soooo disappointed. I just recommended your site to 3 people, but I won't recommend it anymore. Why do you think that "new" is always better?? I come home from work and want to see 'familiar' so that I can study without trying to find my way through something new. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!
Now that I have been using the new layout for a few days, and have read the comments as they arrive in my email, I feel more prepared to comment on the pros and cons. There is a lot of feedback on the layout itself, both positive and negative. However, regardless of the position on the redesign, whether someone favors the old "tree" or not, the vast majority of people providing feedback are unhappy about disappearing content. Repeatedly I'm seeing requests to bring back or improve the following: Vocabulary Showing strength of individual lessons (I miss this one big time!) Half-hearts (making typos or hitting the enter key accidentally is really frustrating) Being able to follow friends' progress Unit discussions Needing to scroll to see answers The background is too bright and irritating to the eyes (boy, do I agree with this one!) Lots of us miss the crying owl * Photos that reinforce memory of individual nouns that have to be typed in along with the article
I see from Luis's response that work will be done to address concerns, and I hope that the above features will return.. I'm sure we all appreciate Duolingo, the hard work that goes into it, and openness to input from users.
Hi. I really miss the vocabulary link. Please bring it back. I referred to it regularly for quick refreshing of memory..
In the old website design when you revisited any section of lessons, some of the vocabulary you learned in it would be listed on the right hand side of the screen, with the option to view 'full vocabulary list'. Now, there is nowhere to view vocabulary with definitions nor conjugations of verbs, even at the title page of the lessons themselves! How can that possibly be considered as an improvement to learning a language? I am truly perplexed.
Thank you :)
I think it might mean windows XP. It's got the same colour scheme. A big blue bar. Rolling green hills in the background.
Their main objective however was the MAKE THE LOGO BIGGER
Thanks again for always being innovative while also listening to user feedback!
These two hardly ever go together as well as they do here.
If the metrics show that it's something we'll get used to, it's probably true. Also these explanatory posts are wonderful. It is great to know how you chiefs think.
Was it intended that there is no skip option in listen-and-speak-questions any more? I sometimes had technical problems where the program doesn't seem to notice that I've spoken and I used to skip these exercises (I know I lost a heart everytime I did this but that was unavoidable). In the new layout the only possibility to deal with such problems is to switch of the microphone (which I didn't want to as the next listen-and-speak-question often worked fine again).
But all in all I like the new layout. And I think it's great that you, Luis, take the time not only for improving Duolingo but also for explaining the changes to us.
Thanks, I like the new design and the fact that it matches the mobile app now.
One small problem that I have noticed since the design switched is that the "Report a Problem" function for sentences does not always seem to work for me. Sometimes it will not let me check a box at all, and sometimes once I've checked the box and hit the "submit" button it never goes anywhere or indicates that it's been submitted. (I'm using Safari on a Mac.)
I don't really care about the design change to be honest, it does look pretty though.
My only concern is vocab list. Occasionally I like to browse through words I've learnt to see if I remember the meaning etc
Congratulations on the new design. I look forward to using it later today. From my brief review on the website (instead of using the iOS app where I do most of my lessons and practice), I have two comments:
I appears that the daily totals for today and the past seven days. I find this to be of great to me, so even when using the app, I'm usually logged into the site on my cell phone to periodically keep up with my progress through the day and to compare today with past days. I do not use the Coach since my goals vary by day depending on my schedule (and sometimes even change during the day), so the daily totals are a big help to me. Please strongly consider restoring this useful function.
While I don't use it daily, I do find the vocabulary section useful at times, either looking up words or phrases or seeing which words are weakest. Personally, I find benefit from having the vocabulary section, but I won't miss it as much as the daily totals discussed above.
One other thing I just noticed: Thank you for putting the User's Translation Tier info right on the Immersion home page. That makes it a lot more convenient to access than it was before.
Oops! Typos! It should have read: "IT appears that the daily totals for today and the past seven days HAVE BEEN REMOVED. I find this to be of great USE to me...."
That will teach me to type on my phone!
I feel a little left out as I can't see it haha! I'm being patient though. I feel like the kid at Christmas who didn't get the present they wanted, whilst everyone else has loads :P From the screenshots I've seen...it looks pretty and colourful. I want. :D
You're not missing out on anything. I wish I could switch back until they fix all the glitches. Plus, I really miss the vocabulary section!
I guess I won't find out if I like it or not until I get it. Every redesign will be glitchy. Think of how PC games or console games work when they're released or a new "patch" for it comes out, there'll be glitches but that's why we have to report them so the DL team can iron them out.
Hopefully the Vocabulary section will return :)
How do I see the points chart that shows how many points I have earned today as well as the past few days without going through a practice session? That's really the only thing I miss about the old design. I would check this in the morning and in the evening to see if I had earned at least 20 points for the day. Now, I don't have a way to see how many points I have earned today. And I sure can't remember because I try to practice every day and the days start running together. Please add something back to the home screen that shows this. Other than that, love the new design.
Hi cmhack7, (nice number by the way!)
One the chart that shows up after you finish a lesson, look to the left, there are two blue, bubble like boxes that show up showing points to the next level, and total points earned for the day. In the picture, it shows that I have earned 14 points for today. (Ignore the "1st screen" comment on it. That was to answer another person's question earlier.)
it shows very quick and i would like to see it each time when i want to
I'm old and get freaked out easily, but this new look and interface seems kewl. One small thing, though- I was previously able to see which individual lessons were starting to weaken- now I'm only able to see which sections are.
"People spend more time on the site, get farther down the tree, come back more often, share more on Facebook, get more items on the store, etc."
I wonder if this is simply because the newer users (the ones who've never seen the old design to begin with) are spending more time on the site simply because they're new?
I did get pretty far down my tree when I was new, now I do one to keep my streak up, and that's all.
Look forward to getting the vocabulary list back. And, I loved being able to make corrections, particularly since some of my mistakes were just typos.
The redesign is sleeker and I love it for that reason but I do miss the vocabulary page. As many here have already said it's a point of pride to know 116 (in my case at last count) words in the language I'm learning (Spanish), it's great to do a quick lesson on words I know I need to work on (currently Questions) and I just like being able to tighten my vocab at my choosing.
Oh and another thing, as others have mentioned it's just great to have control over what I want to do today. If I have 30 minutes on the train I can do a few lessons or if I have a break between check-ins at work I can do an "animals" timed practice.
Anyway, thanks for always pressing onward. I just wish I had known that this redesign was coming.
I'm saying this in my capacity as someone who is learning a language here and as a community member:
There are many young people on this website. I'm sad to see adults associating children as a way to say something is distasteful. Who gave adults more right to enjoy this website than our young community members? This website is for people of many different ages to come and learn a language. Many of you are essentially saying "Go away, you are messing everything up" to a group of young learners as a tactic to complain about the aesthetics.
Constructive criticism makes sense and is really helpful: If you are having functional difficulties that's something to talk about. The brightness of the screen and the need to scroll are both concerns of mine. I've been fortunate to have good enough eyesight to develop strategies around these things where others might not have.
The founders, design team, programmers, etc. are not villains investing copious amounts of time, energy, heart, (and who knows, maybe a few tears by now), trying to make our lives miserable by changing the pictures on the skill modules. There are artists who designed the icons and the background and did the color schemes and I don't think they drew a picture and thought "wow this thing is so ugly let's go put it on Duolingo".
Change is uncomfortable. We don't have to be nasty because we didn't get the color blue that we wanted or the shape we like around a learning module. We can prefer a different color green, and less open space. We can grieve the loss of a feature. We can be concerned because we are getting migraines or old wrist injuries are acting up. We can even be boiling mad because change.
But, we stand a much better chance of having an optimal learning atmosphere if we can feel a wide variety of responses, from mild to intense, give constructive input for functionality and our aesthetic preferences and go about all of it in a way that isn't so vile.
10% (thousands) of people managed it with far fewer features than are available now and no access to the Christmas presents until just a couple of days ago. And until today, the atmosphere here was a very, very different.
'There are many young people on this website. I'm sad to see adults associating children as a way to say something is distasteful. Who gave adults more right to enjoy this website than our young community members? This website is for people of many different ages to come and learn a language. Many of you are essentially saying "Go away, you are messing everything up" to a group of young learners as a tactic to complain about the aesthetics.'
This is a very unfair way of twisting the comments of those who disagree with you. No one has suggested any equivalence between children and 'distasteful'. What others have said is that they do not like the site looking as though it were designed for young children when that is not appropriate to the usership. We don't have young children as members here, they would never cope. The methodology, cognitive level, pace of learning and content (quoting from what I've seen, 'I'm not drunk', 'she wants to get naked', 'your place or mine') are unsuitable for them. I have seen no one being hostile to the teenagers who do use the site or suggesting that they shouldn't be here.
Here are some things that are broken now which weren't broken previously:
•The "retry" button doesn't work for me if I fail a lesson. I have to click "Home" at the top of the window to get back.
•I have to scroll down to the bottom of a window to see the correct translation. Previously it was shown at the left side of the window--much more convenient.
•I don't follow discussions automatically by commenting on them. (Likewise the "follow" and "not following" buttons are both green--quite confusing.
I have the same problem with retry.
But I have reverted to my ipad app rather than the web version to do lessons because I have failed so far to complete a lesson using the new UI, which is totally demotivating. I don't think that's just because it's harder than the app (though it is); it is that am more prone to make mistakes because I can't read the text so well, because it is too small and my eyes are watering.
I'm off now to have another try.
Update: I've now had more success, so maybe I'm getting used to it! :) Or, as it was different lessons, maybe the others were indeed too hard. :(
I generaly like the new design but have a specific usability issue. It sometimes happens to me that on exercises where i must speak a phrase the site does not recognise what i say at all (particularly i think on phrases where I must translate then speak). Sometimes I get a message offering to try again but occasionaly nothing happens at all, the page just sits there. Now on the old design i had the option to say that i didn't know the answer. That cost me a heart but at least I could continue. With the new design when this happens (it still does) all I can do is abandon the exercise and start again. Thanks for your help with this.
This was a problem for me on the old version as well, I used to click on the "turn the microphone off button" which was a pain, and I almost always forgot to turn it back on afterwards. I haven't got the new version yet, Have both buttons been taken away? Only worried as this was a fairly common occurrence before!
I have the exact same issue. It used to happen on the old design, but as you said you could get out of the predicament with a lost heart, and the microphone would usually function correctly by the next question. Now, I either have to bail on the lesson completely or continue without speaking/orally translating for the remaining x questions.
Well I hope you do read every comment because I can't get it to work at all now! I wasn't happy with the new design when I tried it for the first time yesterday. Today however its simply not working on my computer, Lessons are not loading, icons are not responding to 'click' etc. I have tried Firefox, and Opera and in both I have the same problem. I am using Linux so I tried Windows on another computer, same thing, not loading, icons not responding to 'click' etc. .
What happened to the 'Vocabulary' section? I found this really helpful to reinforce learning words I was finding difficult but can't seem to find it on the new site.
Is there any way to make it easier to open several discussions/etc in new tabs? On any other site, I can simply hold down ctrl/command and click on a link to have it open in a new tab. This doesn't work on the Duolingo discussion boards. It makes it very frustrating to browse through and read new threads, as I always lose my place and have to scroll back down every time I go back.
The website does not work properly for me now. What can I do to fix this problem. Email is firstname.lastname@example.org
As per some of my earlier remarks on this. I have used this on both a tablet and a PC. On a tablet its brilliant, on a PC its hopeless, in fact on 2 out of 3 PC's I've tried it on it doesn't even work at all, icons can't be clicked on, lessons don't progress, sound is out of sync with the display and so on. I wonder if other people in the discussion can be more precise as to what devices they are commenting on. I think a picture will emerge that those using it on a Tablet are delighted and those using it, as I prefer to, on a PC are less than happy.
This was clearly designed with tablet users in mind surely Duolingo can give us the option of using the old display on PC's and the new one on our tablets rather than just forcing every one to use the same interface.
I know its free, and I am appreciative of all the work that is gone into this but I have to say if I had just discovered Duolingo in its new format via my desktop I would just have passed over it as pretty useless. On the other hand if I'd had my first experience on a Tablet then I would have been pretty impressed!
So come on please Duolingo, a lot of us use PC's some of us even prefer them to mobile devices, simply give us the option, PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, PLEASE
Actually I'm using a tablet and having all kinds of problems that weren't in the old version, besides the problem with eye strain.
My main problem is the eye strain. I was going on Duolingo every day, trying to compete to be at least in 2nd or 3rd place on the Leaderboard. Now I've got my screen turned down to nighttime ember with f.lux and have sunglasses on. Maybe it's just me. There is a website that has lots of language courses by the U.S. Foreign Service that are in the public domain and are mp3 files and pdf files and were made in the 1940's. http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php I was listening to a couple of the mp3 files of the French course, which was of a conversation and had native speakers at a lot faster speed than on Duolingo. It was a little challenging but only requires listening so there's no issue with eye strain. Then I decided to give Duolingo another shot, but I wish they'd have left it the way it was. I don't know if I'll continue on Duolingo if it's going to be so bright. I was enjoying it so it's disappointing. The first time I saw the new look, I thought something was wrong with my browser.
I miss the feature of being able to fix your mistakes and get back a half heart. I thought it was a great learning activity. Now we don't get to address our mistakes without going through a whole lesson that might include the missed item or not.
The thing I miss the most is the "Fix mistakes" option. Not (yet) happy at all with the new design, sorry.
Not impressed with the new layout - was doing really well under the old layout and really enjoying it, but I when I went on yesterday, can only say I was really disappointed - the areas I was previously strengthening were all showing as strengthened and you now have to go through it by only 're-doing' it, will seek out an alternative language place - really let down by this, was really enjoying the old site, damn shame !
Have checked out Babbel and a couple of others quickly tonight to see if there's a reasonable alternative - prepared to pay if that's what it takes - will try Babbel for a while
have just signed up to Babbel - cost £17.00 for 3 months, but hopefully worth it, good luck those of you who are staying with Duo Lingo - Wasn't happy with the new layout so have moved on. Shame, coz I really like the old site, was darn good
Do I like the new version? No but I didn't complain earlier as Opera crashes on attempting to post my comment. That certainly doesn't cause me to be thrilled. Why was I using Opera? 1. Because I like it and 2. because I cannot figure out how to convince Firefox to allow me to use the microphone. Anyway, I found the old design to be both professional looking and easy to use. It just "looked right" to me. The new design might "appear to be more fun" but, for me, functionality is what matters. I spend little time actually look at a page. Things like the "1,2,3 shortcut keys" are far more important than a "fun look". One recent change I like a lot is the "half point" option on an error but it sounds like that is just making things better rather than having anything to do with the layout change. As for the apparent more use with the new design, maybe but maybe not. For example, I have been very active recently because one of the people I was following passed me and it caused me to get my butt in gear.
The cosmetic changes I will get used to, but I find two major usability issues for myself. One of the main reasons that I used the site as opposed to the app was that we had the ability to see which lessons within a skill were weak. That option is now gone.
Also, I loved that we could practice a skill without first completing it. Some skills have 8 or more lessons which in some cases translated to 100+ new words. So i would do half the lessons, practice them several times (using the "strengthen this skill" button) then finish the rest of the lessons. It was very helpful. I find that having to learn 8-10 lessons before we can practice the lessons as a whole is definitely a detriment to the learning process. It would be great if you would consider returning the ability to strengthen a skill regardless of how many lessons are completed.
For questions where you type what the speaker is saying, the box seems to be just a fixed format single-line rectangle, so on long sentences, all of the text doesn't fit and you have to scroll it back and forth within the box to see what you've written.
And as so many others have said, the bright white is killing my eyes.
The vocabulary seccion is TOO important, we need it back please! Duolingo is AWESOME but this needs to come back SOON!!!! (Do I seem desperate enough?)
Luis, first I want to thank you and your team for creating this site. I'm blown away by the concept of making language learning itself self supporting. The implementation of gamifying the process? Super genius! Thank you!
This new design, though, feels like reading all caps. In. Color. Very harsh on my, admittedly a bit older, eyes.
If the new design were in place in the beginning, I'm pretty sure I would not have become so addicted. When this design was implemented on the Android app, after a few days I just stopped using it.
The metrics that you mention in your post seem to be more skewed towards younger people. Facebook, visiting more often, getting further down the tree faster. Or, some other demographic? Please consider the possibility of reasons other than site design to explain differences in user behavior. If so, you may be targeting a segment of the population, at the expense of a more universal appeal.
Is it possible to make more than one color scheme available in the account settings?
Thank you for all the work you and your team do to make this site such a great place.
Good night, K (more to come)
Good point. I'm an oldie too and preferred the old version, not because I can't deal with changes (might take me a bit longer to get used to them, but I do) but I just find the text on the screen harder to see. And I don't care about 'cool' looks.
"People spend more time on the site, get farther down the tree, come back more often, share more on Facebook, get more items on the store, etc."
Quite the opposite happened to me. Ex enthousiastic user. Now disappointed user. In the past, I was determined to do a great deal of study here, but now I am determined to use other methods instead of Duolingo in order to learn languages. Some scholars point out that learning takes place in a calm and safe environment. The learning environment is less attractive to me when there are -out of the blue - sudden changes - without prior notice - which have abandoned the access to DISCUSSIONS and have deleted the VOCABULARY lists.
It is running in Chrome now so that's good. Another little bug I have noticed is when it tells you to pay attention to accents it displays the word in red but does not show where the accent should be like it used to.
Design team should be fired.
I'm not a personal fan of the new aesthetic (I find it childish, disorganized, etc.), but I recognize it is just that - an aesthetic. That's fine, different tastes for different people.
But what was the design team smoking when they decided "hey, you know what we should get rid of? the vocabulary section that allows users to easily review/look up the words they've learned". I'm very curious how you could honestly think to yourselves "if we remove a useful feature that in no way hinders anything else on duolingo, that would be an improvement!".
If Duolingo doesn't re-instate some way of reviewing what words I've learned in each lesson and what words I've learned overall, I won't be staying around.
When I scroll down to the bottom of the page, I see a lot of people who have been downvoted into the negative numbers. Most of them are people making brief statements about their opinion of the site. Why are they being downvoted? Is it because they're saying things that have already been said? I don't think that's worth a downvote in a thread about something new to the site. Most of the discussion is going to be oriented around people's opinions.
I don't want to believe that people are being downvoted for their opinions, but that's what it seems to be. I think it's awfully harsh to downvote people just because their opinion is different from yours. If they state it in an abusive or otherwise offensive way, then I'd understand, but most of those comments are not even strongly-worded.
I don't know if anyone will see this in a thread so large, but I'm posting it anyway. I'm also upvoting anyone who has negative votes for a perfectly reasonable statement about their opinion, whether I agree with it or not.
Several more things just occurred to me:
--Commenting on a discussion no longer causes you to automatically follow a discussion.
--The "following" and not following buttons are both green--very confusing to see if you are actually following a discussion.
--I submit two Wikipedia articles about Isaac Asimov for translation and have them rejected due to possible "offensive content," yet when I just went to practice my real world translation, I am given an article about a porn star. Ironic much?
Duolingo, I have lost a LOT of faith you this past week, which I am sad to admit. I was 110% addicted to this site. Now...maybe 78% so.
I miss the function to recover half hearts in the execrise. I think it was more motivating if you could correct for small stupid mistakes or typos that duolingo does not recognise as such. Or with problems of literal translation that doulingo still has quite often.
I really appreciate your effort, but previous website was so much better. Now it looks like a website for children. I can understand this "modern" rounded corners like in iOS, but skill tree with those big circles is no longer a tree and there is lack of this clear path from one "circle" to another.
Besides visual shortcomings, I've noticed that is no longer possibility to correct sentence after making a mistake or maybe I'm missed it somehow? In such case I'm really sorry. This feature was really nice.
Another case, in listening exercises translation to English is really hard to notice and what about this huge text "Translate this text"in the middle of writing exercises. I think majority of people is smart enough to understand what is the language learning site for. If not, there is second smaller text "Type in English", so I think they can handle.
I really hope that I'll get use to this new website, because content and the way of learning is really great.
"This suggests that getting used to the design change is simply a matter of time."
As humans are good at adapting and getting used to bad things.
I just wish that DuoLingo would allow its users to decide which format to use: the new design is both an aesthetic and practical disaster, if you ask me.
Maybe have a lower-bandwidth site as an option? Less flash, same curriculum?
I recently moved from techtastic Thailand to Internet-poor India, and found I could not load this new site at all. I was pretty sad. But then, would the old site have loaded? I don't know.
(Hopes Facebook shares are not regarded as a huge representation of how much someone likes a site)
Same here, my best friend and I don't have it. We prefer to spend our time doing productive things, like Duolingo for example! :) I understand that many people find it a great way to stay in contact with friends, but Facebook (or any other SN) is never going to take over my life like I see in so many other people.
"waste" not "waist." I say this in case you are a non-English speaker, since we are all about learning languages! And if you ARE ... well ...
Later edit: Why do you downvote? If there wouldn't be this question, you wouldn't read all the interesting answers below :)
Could be one of the many reasons
another is that Parents use it to spy on their Children
it also could be Employers use it to keep an eye on their employees
Facebook is an important tool which is useful for some but it is just one of the many media that we can use and how we should question the relationship
Also avoided by many who prefer to be more private about their likes, families, friends, activities, etc., and who prefer not to follow the masses.
Quite agree ... I was not aware of it until today I read in The Guardian newspaper
@jackelliot There is a Guardian Newspaper?!?! (Oh well, in the audio correct thingy it pops right up, so duh, of course) »|:(
http://gizmodo.com/5530178/top-ten-reasons-you-should-quit-facebook ... Oh, I'm not on Facebook.
First of all, spying on somebody is just straight down mean.... And second of all, government spying on us could have potential to become a better society, or (shivers) worse, much, much worse!
Mainly because I doubt my friends are that interested that I just completed Verbs 3. I'd like them to be interested, and I do mention it from time to time, but the endless feed of Farmville requests annoyed me so I assume they don't want to know about this.
That and I practice at work over lunch, but they block facebook so it wouldn't work anyway.
Well... it is a hunting ground for pedophiles and identity thieves. As well as an unsafe environment to post any personal information, which is exactly what the website expects you to do.
Except you don't have to post any personal details however often they ask you.
Can we see all the metrics? I like data...
How about keep both designs and let users to choose use which design surface when we login?
Good Idea, I like choice too. I don't like being told i have to change when I'm happy with something I like.! Would be interesting to see how many users went back to the old site after seeing the new one.
I like this sentiment. If the new format proves not to be as useful, I'm sure DL will look for ways to change it again.
I never share my gaming experience on Facebook. I don't want my friends to know that I have no life learning a new language :P
This. Nobody has to share "your language skill" with facebook acc. The removal was good for nothing. And the rest of the changes? Horrible..
I don't really like the idea of XP and prefer the coins. I actually like the rest of the site though, even though I thought I wouldn't. There still isn't an easy way to navigate to different languages, which is a downside.
Also, in lessons, I think the words that you have seen before should go a different colour. ( The dots that is.)
I do like the hidden loading bar in the 'o' of Duolingo and I like the fact that each lesson tells you what you are going to cover.
Personally i don't like it so colourful. But you are right, I will get used to :-) And there also some changes I really appreciate like the new overview screen for the skills.
I can't access the new design, why? I've got the update for signing in though
I'm checking duolingo obsessively to see the new layout, but I still have the old one. :( I really hope accessing the website with an iPad will be faster and easier. Can't wait, the picture previews look nice.
Congratulations on the new redesign - nice to see that you are continuing to work and improve the site. That being said... I agree with the comments about the white space - having the pages so spread out makes it difficult to keep my eyes both on the exercise and on the correction or translation so far down the page, particularly in the timed lessons. Already pushing to type quickly, so the extra looking time to learn what I did wrong is lamented. Also miss the vocabulary list - I really liked being able to go look up a word when I can't quite remember if it's masculine or feminine, or to look up conjugation. It may not show up in your algorithms as a place where time was heavily spent, but I checked there quickly many times. But most of all, I am very sad to lose the lesson practice in each individual category. I used that heavily to drill on new words and new concepts, and not being able to focus my practice without just retaking a single lesson is a tremendous loss.
Thanks for listening - much appreciate all the effort you're putting into the application.
I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I don't actually give a rat's ass about the way the website looks, as long as I can still learn languages. The only thing I miss is indeed the vocabulary page, because from experience I can tell you many words marked as "weak" in my vocabulary NEVER showed up in review, I had to "hand-fish them out" for a review.
Apart from that, it looks nice, good job. I just hope you do not only look at "how much time people spend on the website", but rather at "is the website effective for learning a new language". (And no, getting further down the tree does no necessary mean you actually learned the language better, as you may not have your skills albeit golden actually strengthened).
I don't give a rats ass either about the look as long as I can use it. I'm not going to learn a new language if I have to quit after five minutes. After a few minutes my head starts to ache from squinting. It can look the way it is but why does it feel like I'm on the artic ice on a sunny day, as soon as I switch to duolingo now?
There are lots of free language courses on this website that are in the public domain. They consist of mp3 files and pdf files and have native speakers. Sadly, I think I'll have to wean myself from Duolingo because the new look is too bright. I listened to one of the French FSI lessons and it requires listening so eye strain isn't an issue and it was native speakers and fast speed. I found it a little challenging so I decided to try Duolingo again tonight. I did one round of Portuguese, then started reading through this discussion. My main issue is that it's too bright. I'm already using f.lux and wearing sunglasses. That should be enough. Maybe it's just me.
One problem I just encountered was with the pop-up window showing verb conjugation that you get to from hovering the cursor over a word in an exercise and clicking "Conjugate"; the pop-up window was was larger than the screen, but would not scroll down to show what was off the bottom of the screen- I could only scroll down the greyed out main screen behind.
I am so confused, how do I get to my vocabulary lists, and practice weakest words? It's my best resource for consolidating what I've learned!
I think it would be incredibly helpful to bring back the vocabulary list, as well as the option of practising individual words that went with it. It was nice to be able to focus on a word and explore it a bit more if you were having difficulty with it. Also the feedback for the lessons is less clear. The colour coded responses in the old version were really helpful and quick. Third problem- I am using a standard laptop and when doing the lessons I find I have to scroll for each question, especially the ones I get wrong. This becomes a little annoying after awhile, and discourages me from checking the correct response as much as I should.
On the positive side, I love having a separate activity tab, and the store button is much easier to find now!
Thanks for the hard work you guys are doing!
It is not the browser, it is tied to your account. I think they didn't switch quite everybody.
Glad to hear that the trophy system is getting fixed! I'm a new user, and although trophies don't represent the amount of knowledge that I have in my head, they tend to really keep me motivated. I hope we don't lose them as a feature, or at least there should be something to replace them as a reward system.
Thanks again for filling us in. :-)
I've been doing lessons on the new site and I feel like it is harder to see and operate the lessons. There are too many distracting colors with the new design. Also, I dislike the new completed skill tree trophy, it is so basic and unsatisfying compared to the last one with the flag-scarf.
Facebook is not available in China mainland, so the discussion part is the only way to connect myself with other learners. The new design is pretty user-friendly, but I like the vocabulary column, which helps me memorize more sentences by practicing. Moreover, I used to review the lesson by looking through the discussion of each skill lesson, which integrates difficult words and grammar, now it is missing. I wish there could be more revision practice.
I really like the new design. I feel like it is more captivating, fluid, and aesthetically appealing. I want to say that when I first discovered Duolingo, it sparked an interest in learning front-end coding. So it encouraged me to learn a language that you guys didn't even intend on!
Only thing I wish that remained from the old layout is the glossary of terms from the lessons. I would really like to see that, or maybe I'm missing it which would also mean that something needs to change to make it easier to access.
Thank you for the inspiration! Merci pour l'inspiration! Gracias por la inspiracion! <h1>Thanks for the inspiration</h1>
I am completely perplexed!!! If I take a break during a skill, how do I know what lessons within that skill I have completed. Really bad design flaw if that's the case!
You're right -- only the strength for the entire section is provided now. You can't check for weak points in individual lessons anymore. Practice skill sessions are spread out over the entire section and I don't feel like I can concentrate on problem areas.
I am so grateful to have this free language tool. This has opened up a whole new world for me. Thanks so much - keep up the good work!
Overall, I think the changes to Duolingo are fun and I haven't had any problems with it so far. The only little superficial thing I miss is the option to "awesome" progress in the activity stream. I know there is still a "like" button but there was just something fun and whimsical about an "awesome" button.
Why cant we see how many lingots the person has if you click on the person profile. Also it is annoying that you cant see there tree.
i agree with all the comments on visual usability; i am 61 years young. i loooove this site big time. my issue has nothing to do with the redesign. i would like it if a screen refresh or a settings change would not end the lesson. sometimes the microphone screens hang and the mic stops working (15% of the time). i don't know if it's a duolingo or a hardware glitch but it forces me to temporarily disable the microphone or to click the "do not use the microphone button". simply put there are occasions when i need to leave the lesson intending to return but i don't want the lesson to end.
i find it difficult to find people to converse with. maybe you could invent a way to let us converse with one another for listening and speaking practice?
facebook sucks! to all the people who do not like it; stop talking about it so much.
lovingly , jim, thestarvoyager
Its a beautiful system thanks. However, since the upgrade I continually loose Internet connection!!! I did not had the problem prior to the upgrade.
it's a minor thing, but can anyone explain the colours of icons on the tree? gold is full strength, but for example I have Medical at 4/5 strength and the icon is red, whereas Science at 4/5 strength is blue. I thought the different colours otherwise would relate to category (verbs/adjectives/whatever) but why would medical & science be different?
I think it might just a design aspect to add colors to our trees. Some of my verbs are green and some of them are red, even though both of them are at 4/5 strength. :)
thanks, yeah you're probably right. I can't help but look for a code when colours vary like that!
Gracias, Duolingo. You provide a remarkable FREE service to the world. I hope, ultimately, that it can be profitable for you. Your hard work and the expense of programming and website operation is sincerely appreciated.
For the record, I'm not at all keen on the new design, but I understand that this kind of layout - large fonts and buttons with lots of white space - is currently popular, especially now that everyone's designing the web for phablet/tablet users (I'm on a PC, 1920x1080).
But I do understand that I'm probably in a minority about this, and DL is a lot more usable than many others who've gone the same route. So, I'll just zoom my browser out to about 75% and carry on learning!
I am a relative newcomer to Duolingo with only a few weeks, so I have nothing to compare this to. However, I have thirty-five years of teaching experience and a doctor of education, so I can comment from that perspective. I am presently refreshing my very weak French and learning Spanish for the first time. I work at it for just 5-10 minutes a day and am very painlessly but steadily improving in both.
In short, Duolingo is amazing! I am very impressed with the wide variety of activities that involve all forms of listening, speaking, reading, writing, and translating in both directions. The multiple tools for tracking progress, and the algorithms to track the need for additional practice are fantastic. Multiple motivators help keep one on track. To get all this for free is, frankly, mind-blowing. In my view, Duolingo will completely revolutionize the way people learn foreign languages. Keep up the great work!
IN the older version we could see a list with the vocabulary of each lesson, what happened to that?
Hi, I appreciate Duolingo immensely and I am very thankful and a loyal user who tries to get others to use all the time. One thing I miss is that I was able to go to my friends and see their trees and progress, and I can no longer see that. I would very much like that feature back. Please!!!!!!
I like very much this new design...the only think I miss is the crying green bird (this was really pushing me in going forward and improving, from an emotional point of you...)
I just wanted to put in my two cents that I rather liked the new design, at least for the half-day that I had it. (Maybe it only got pushed out on one of my computers?) I don't use the vocabulary page, so I won't miss it, and I don't use Facebook integration, but you don't force me to, so we're all good. Keep up the innovation!
Same problem I'm having! Maybe I'll reload the page, sign in, sign out, and see if that works.
Hi! I have seen a few pictures of the new site, and would really like to have it soon, but still have all my progress. I'm not clear on if we have to switch completely to a new account to have this, or if we can get it later. If the latter is true, how soon?!! :P
Hi! A day before you started upgrading, I saw the iOS Duolingo version on my friend's iPad and I complained "Hell, why the web version is not as nice as this one?!" Next day, in the morning, I launched Duolingo and wow – they probably heard me :D So, really nice design, I like it.
Just 1 niggle for me. I really miss the scroll that showed what words youd strengthened. I loved the noise...
Ok some of the links to some of the modules aren't working very well, at least on my computer. More specifically, the retry button after you lose all your hearts doesn't work.
i would like to have again the half heart. now it is too difficult to carry on. i can't complete the tree for so many duolingo's error translation.
I dont have the problem that the new design is hard on the eyes,but I am only 15 and my eyes still work quite good ,so this doesent mean anything. I like the new design a lot and find it better than the older one . Good job :)
I just found a new issue with possibly the redesign. I just finished a lesson for which I earned 10 points for passing and one for finishing with one heart and the graph at the end, for today, shows 9 points? Also I've previously already earns points for today?
By the way what is XP?
I like the new interface. It's fast, maybe even faster and helped boost my interest in the app, although at first I was shocked a bit, I have to admit. :P
please give me back my points :)
they were very stimulating for me and my followers, I took it just like a game, very interactive as it should be
it would be nice to have this kind of motivation, it really helps a lot
Which points are not working? I just checked my home page for the leaderboard and it is still there. If this is broken for you, please let Support know in the Troubleshooting forum here: http://www.duolingo.com/topic/647
If you are talking about something other than the leaderboard, could you clarify a little?
my mistake, sorry :) I didn't see the points until after I posted the comment :)
maybe it was because I was not accustomed with the new interface
but I do have 2 observation to make ( let's hope to be relevant this time ) :
before the changing, there was a thing: when you did a mistake, the system didn't take you a full heart, only half a heart - I considered that to be really helpful.
in some cases, the system did give you the chance to correct your mistakes - I found that helpful too.
best regards, Corina
That is ok :)
The people who received the half hearts were part of a test group. I was part of it for a while myself. The test group ended. I can't say for sure if they will be rolled out to the rest of the website as the metrics were unfavorable.
I also enjoyed correcting my mistakes. Though, I leaned on the half hearts when I shouldn't have. I rushed through the rest of the tree and I wasn't ready yet. While they hindered me, some people found them very helpful. :)
I liked the half a heart and correct your mistake facility too, hope they bring it back. I also would like my coins back, the graph is fine but I liked my piles of coins and the total count. I like the look of the site though but worry that the old owl didn´t get a proper pension, hope he´s ok.
I like the look of the I like the redesign look, but just to put my two cents in: I miss the discussions on the lesson page and having the points for the week shown on the home screen.
I like the new design a lot. I stopped using the website version of duolingo as the smartphone version was so much nicer and more user friendly (for instance, the list of words that are going to be worked in a lession is a great plus).
I do however seriously regret the possibility to consult the number of points earned per day over the last week. This was in particular a good way to check whether the streak was going to be intact or not (I do so many things that I sometimes don't exactly remember when I practised late in the evening whether it was before or after midnight!)
Also, I believe the streak and the XP indicator are not sufficient. For people who break their streak (it happened to me for purely technical reasons), an indication of how close to a good streak they are would be nice. Anything that might encourage someone to stay as much as possible on track would be good.
To the whole team of Duolingo, great job! Thanks for giving so many people the possibility to learn languages for free! You make the world a better place. Bruno
If your streak is intact for the day, there will be a green check mark over the bottom of the flame icon. The flame should be on the upper right of your screen, next to your user name.
Ok, calling the old display "Early 2000s" is giving the 2000s a bit too much credit... how about "Late 2000s"?
Hola Luis. No me gusta el nuevo diseño. Me siento en un site para niños. Los colores y animaciones me perturban un poco. Y el árbol de conocimientos esta muy grande en dimensiones, ahora tengo que hacer mucho scroll. Y sigue el problema en el que solo me aparece mi medalla de francés y no la de inglés. Para que me aparezcan las dos debo cambiarme por "settings" a "quiero aprender inglés". Ya lo había reportado hace meses y aún no arreglan este pequeño problemilla. Regards, Jesus Mata
does this mean that the discussion pages which were specific to each language topic have now been lost?
By this I mean the discussion banks where users would leave useful links and such for topics that did not have any duolingo 'tips' (which was most of them after about half way through).
Apologies if I have missed something. Are they still accessible anywhere?
Anyway, I think the new design update is a great success, it has certainly reestablished my interest in Duolingo.
These should all still be in their respective Language Forums. (If you go to the main page of the General Discussions forum and look to the right, you'll see Sections and in that area are links to Troubleshooting and each of the language forums (this is on the new layout). On the old layout, go to the right side but scroll down until you see miniature flags.
@Usagiboy7 thanks for that. I had been there but I still couldn't see posts categorised by langauge learning block (e.g. at the moment I'm on Spanish Modal Verbs where do I find all the posts that were previously categorised within the Modal Verbs sub-section?).
Thank you Luis. Every issue I was having with site performance has now been resolved. One thing is sure in this life, you will NEVER make everyone happy...but I, for one, appreciate all the thought and hard work that go into this FREE site...I am learning two languages at 54 years old...so, I'm happy. :-)
I would to see the owl before each lesson again. And hear the scroll. It sounded like the owl fluttering his feathers.
So how many more unwanted changes will we have to endure until we get one that actually improves the site? Like the ability to choose what type of exercises we want to do?
You can fiddle with the look of the site all you want. It doesn't change the fact that I have to tell the program I'm a Spanish speaker learning English (when I'm the complete opposite) in order to actually get some beneficial exercises.
I like the new aesthetic - my only concern with the looks is that the layout feels very spread out. My biggest problem though: I like being able to practice individual words. I feel like it really helped me cope with the German cases.
Hi, Luis, and thanks a lot for the feedback. I think I'm beginning to like the new design! Please could you check out the search feature on the discussion page? Mine's not working!
I liked the added commentary in each lesson (very helpful for syntax), as well as the ability to practice within specific lessons. Can't seem to do that anymore. I also liked seeing what words/phrases I've learned for periodic review - no longer there. Plus the previous format was more compact, and the personal Home page showed weekly progress. Now, only completion of a lesson shows daily/weekly progress.
Bring the previous look back.
The biggest negative of the new design is that I can no longer see what skills my friends are learning. I'd love to see much more detail on profile pages and in the activity feed.
I think your new design is nice. But did you also change something about Lessons and trainings themselves? It used to be possible to change mistakes (if there were small things like a forgotten plural s) and so only loose half a heart. Now, I'm troubling with finishing a lesson. I find that very discouraging :(
I don't like the overly fatty and round design.
I started loving duolingo so much, but I know if I can handle it looks like a stupid game for five-years-old girls. :( Awwww... why so? Make it optional, pleeease!
i agree, i feel like using a childrens play game now. and my sentences do not fit to the areas.
I like the new design very much but I think we should be able to see others skill tree.
Please return progress of each lesson in a level - it was very convenient, when some level is not gold and only one lesson in it is not 100%, i trained only the lesson. Now it cannot be seen what lesson is not good.
And how can i see a tree of some other person, his progress for different languages. I want to see them to comare with mine.
I find the translation is harder for me to see, as I have to scroll down for it to fit on my screen Also I find the text a bit small......I like everything else that you have done
Progress "thermometer" at top of page mostly illegible. The ticks at the right are much too faint. Why didn't you check the colors before you launched the re-design?
I still can't differentiate the two types of French accents. Both are tiny and look nearly identical. The direction of the accent is very important in French!
I had the new design for one evening and after that it returned to the old design and never changed back. Reading your post, I should be on the new design, since it has been enabled for all users. Not so. Not even on other computers or after some refreshes. Am I the only one?
I think my previous comment on another thread was a little harsh, I reacted badly to the unexpected changes. However after a few days I am wiling to admit that it is not so bad, however I still do not like the way the lesson 'tree' is set up now, the big icons are hard to look at and follow, also it is hard to see the progress on specific lesson groups. It is also very hard to see which lesson groups are attached to each other. My main problem however is that my computer (and any other I get on) does not like the new changes very much, after a few moments the internet will have to shut the tab and reopen it and eventually give up. It does not give me enough time to do more than one lessons and then I am locked out for nearly the rest of the day. I don't know if this is because of Dou or not but it is the only website that this happens on and only since the changes. All this having been said I appreciate the attempt at making things better and the effort put into it. :)
I would love the vocabulary page come back :) I was going to check it the day my design was updated haha, so i miss it. I Love Duolingo, it would be great to add more languages soon, like Russian or japanese. Nice new Design.
On multiple choice questions, the user cannot clearly tell which option is selected as he tabs (using keyboard) through the options. The user is forced to use the mouse to tell clearly. This was not a problem in the previous design. Can you guys fix that small issue? I am used to not taking my hands of the keyboard during the lesson and this slows me down. Thanks!
Luis: Big fan of duolingo, but desperately seeking help!!! Say there are 12 lessons within a skill and you've completed 4 before you get interrupted by a phone call - or whatever. Before the changes to the site, you could go back later and see which lessons you had completed/started and those you hadn't started by looking at the bar for that lesson. No one in my class can figure out a workaround for what seems to be a MAJOR DESIGN FLAW other than writing down the lesson we're on when we're interrupted or simply just want to continue later.
What happened to the vocabulary page where it listed, like, the use of each individual word and such? I found that really useful, but...I can't find it now.
The team is making some changes to it. Once they are done, we will have a vocabulary feature again. :)
More feedback - my friends and I hate it that we can no longer "see" each others' pages to see how we're comparing with each other on the skills.
If I take a break during a skill session, how do I know what lessons I have completed and what lessons I have not? It was very easy to tell before. Do I have to resort to a workaround of manually noting where I was? This certainly doesn't seem like an "improvement"!!! My classmates and I are all complaining about this.
I'd really like to see you to bring back functionality that has been removed with the redesign. For example, having access to vocabulary for review and being able to review specific areas are key parts of my language study. Without them, working on weaknesses becomes much more difficult, and fluency more distant. I think I am average in this regard, too.
If the company's intention is to help people go from zero to translating the web, why remove functionality that supports this goal even if doesn't satisfy criteria like "people spend more time on the site"? Offering learning features that support language competence is critical to producing competent translators and may not be measured well by "time on site" criteria.
I love the site. I spend time on it every day and I am making steady progress in my target language. I think the business model is awesome. I want you to succeed and I think - if your intention is to create language competence - that you might be measuring, in part, the wrong things.
I personally love the new layout! I've been with Duolingo for quite some time, and although it was a shocking change (a lot of aesthetics were drastically different), I feel that the new "theme" is very good at motivating me to learn. The bright colors, and rounded edges offer a "chipper" aspect that the old layout was missing. It seems to inspire to learn, in my opinion. Good job, staff! Keep up the good work!
A way to review the vocabulary without going back through the individual lesson would be appreciated (vocab list). In addition I liked the vocab list that was presented after a skill strengthening exercise - this was a great tool to immediately review the words I just practiced..
But where exactly is the feature that we could practice individual words? I enjoyed that.
I want my single lessons back with the glossary reference? No more streak counts? There are no Level Indicators prior to completing levels? Looks like you sold out to Phone Design and stuck it to Lap Top Learning, Thanks for nothing.
I will never use DL again if this new design continues, I can't find out the new word meaning?? Hillfe :(
Hi Luis, thanks for Duolingo, I enjoy it - I'm having a problem with the new design though - quite often I'm being cut off while I'm still working on a question and told that I've got it wrong before I've even finished - losing hearts this way! This didn't used to happen. Congrats on Duolingo.
I love all the newly changed things in here, but what I'm eagering to duolingo team is the very quick starts of the vocabulary
I love Duolingo, especially the previous design where with the tree I could see what to expect in next steps with mouse hover the blocks. would you add such option to current design too?
Though I'm spending more time since the change, it doesn't mean I like it more. The reason is: I got more comfortable time which lets me concentrate more on what I do here.
In "Activity" tab the "load more" link doesn't show anything.
Dear Duolingo, I like the new design, however I miss the vocabulary option very much! I used it lots of times and it was great help. Would it be possible to add it again? Thanks, and keep up the good work! Greetings, Istvan
I'm trying to be positive, so one thing I'd like to say is I like being able to see the accents more easily during the lessons. The old ones were a little hard for "older eyes". :) Thank you!
There's a little bug in the exercise where you have to translate one word into the foreign laguage and have radio buttons to select the appropriate pronoun: when you translate first and then select the pronoun, the submit button stays inactive.
Redesigning a product is not a bad thing after all (and if I like it or not is a matter of taste, so I won't share my thoughts here). But if we're really talking about improving things, then in order to improve this and that you cannot take a whole step back in all the other aspects (like for example Opera Browser sadly did).
I miss few functions, e.g. discussions in skills. There are lots of skills that lack any explanation, so skill discussions were very, very helpful. In my opinion the one really important task now is to improve the quality of all the courses and to complete all the gaps. For example the final Spanish skills are far from being perfect.
Why did you give up on so many functions, we're all missing right now? Opera released a barely usable new browser and they're now version by version becoming what they were once and what their users really liked. I know it's sometimes hard to evolve and at the same time not burn one's bridges behind one. But maybe Opera should wait a bit and release a more mature browser when it's ready?
It's how I feel about Duolingo now.
I think some beta test with old and committed users would be a nice thing before making the new design public. Or maybe giving each user a choice which layout he/she wants to use (you said that new users saw the new layout earlier, so maybe it's possible). This way you could avoid forcing users to accept things how they are. Unfortunately many companies do that, like for example Google wants to make us "social".
I wish you the best and thank you for your work.
I really dislike losing a heart when I make a careless typo, or accidentally translate something instead of typing what I hear. I liked that the old version gave me a chance to fix it - "Oops, that response doesn't seem to be in Spanish", or just notifying me I had a typo. I never got "credit" for an actual language mistake, so I thought the system was pretty advanced to be able to figure out that it was a typo. For these reasons, before the redesign I always preferred doing Duolingo on my laptop as opposed to my iPad since the mobile design is the newer version. I do get that the lesson here is for me to be more careful, but it's still irritating to be penalized for mistakes that are technical rather than related to language learning.
I think there is a small bug in the message window reporting that you have strengthened the Christmas skills, in the first English-French bonus level. The cartoon that is shown is similar to the one at the pronoun level (green background, man with a beard) and not the Santa Claus cartoon.
Too many colours on the tree make it difficult to see my progress through it. I would like the simpler colour system so I don't have to look at my tree so long. Also, it is too spread out down the page so there is too much scrolling.
You used to be able to get half credit by correcting your answer (except multiple choice). That doesn't seem to work anymore. Seems a loss, as fixing your answer is a good learning tool.
I really liked Duolingo but the new design is still too bright for my eyes. Right now I'm wearing sunglasses and I have Flux on my computer. I'll try the sunglasses and see how it goes.
Someone saw me using Duolingo and said, "Oh, is that that duolingo thing? The thing for kids?" 'Nuff said.
I had mercifully been left in the old design until today . . . now I'm going blind. Honestly, this is just far too bright. It may be good for phones or small devices, but on a full computer screen, it is totally unacceptable . . . possibly harmful. I can see I'm not the first to register this complaint, but I don't understand why it isn't being taken more seriously. Between this and the missing vocabulary page, I'm not sure it is worth continuing . . . and I'm on a 37 day streak . . .
The brightness has been address in the way that the background is now a dimmer grey instead of white. Some people, like me (and apparently you) have extra sensitive eyes. Are your eyes blue by any chance? (Mine are. I generally have the brightness dimmed on my computer no matter what website I'm on. It helps a lot. Maybe it will help you too?) Vocab page and coin stacks weren't integrating well with the new layout. The team is working on it so they can bring them back. :)
Mine is NOT gray. My background is BRIGHT WHITE. (I verified this using a color contrast checker.) The scene behind the main screen (with the mountains) is light grey, but that is not what I'm forced to look at as I try to learn Italian. Maybe the change was not made in all languages? Please don't try to tell me what I am seeing. This is TOO BRIGHT. (And I already tried to turn down the brightness on my monitor . . . but it was already turned all the way down.)
I apologize for the assumption. I am probably part of a test group. (Forum mods are users who volunteer to moderate. We are not given any more information than any other users. It is also possible that I've installed something that I don't remember installing. There are various online resources for folks with light sensitive eyes.)
I like the new design overall - there are just a couple small things I would change. 1. It's not as easy to see the correct answer (or alternative correct answer) as it was before. 2. I miss being able to hover over a category I haven't unlocked yet and get an idea of what it contains. 3. I would like to see the list of words you strengthened at the end of a learning session come back, too.
Thanks for the update. I especially like the new pictures.
It's difficult to tell which lessons I have completed and which ones I need to complete.
Why is the word/phrase no longer translated for you the first time you learn it? (Before, it would be highlighted, and when you hovered over it, it would tell you what it meant.) Now I have no idea what the word is when I see it for the first time and no way to know.
When I get to the end of a practice, nothing happens. It doesn't move me on; all I can do it click Quit. Also when you have to choose a word from a dropdown box, the words are all white (like the background) until you hover them. Other than that, I like the new design. Just wish I could practice on my computer and not just on my phone app.
Hey, I just realized how easy it is to switch between languages! That's great!!!!
@annika_a I was excited when I first discovered that too.
There is a user right now collecting "How to" info like that here http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1538954
HOW TO CHANGE YOUR LANGUAGE ON THE NEW LAYOUT
Change language from home screen. Click language icon.
Bravo!!! (FYI, the new site acts a little differently on my iPhone mobile browser than the old site did. Not worse, just differently.)
Love the new site design. Missed it yesterday because most of time is on the iOS app.
I really love the new design! I only hope you will keep amazing us the way you do
I love the new design of the website! The site is better organized and now had a more modern feel to it. Thank you for the update! :)
I actually really like the new design. It makes it look a lot cleaner than it looked before. I hope it stays like this for a while at least.
I like the new format, but what happened to the page with extra sentences? Here's what I want 1) "strengthen skills" that uses just the words up to the section chosen, 2) the extra sentences with practices and points, 3) more interesting things to buy in the store (maybe a pretend trip to France, for example, 10 lingots for a plane ticket, 5 for economy lodging, 10 for luxury, 10 for a side trip to Giverny, etc.),
You're right about the motivation.
I'm using Duolingo because I want to learn a language, and not the other way around - so regardless of what Duolingo does, I'm going to learn a language. But with this new design, my motivation to use Duolingo as a resource increased, i.e. out of the time that I am going to spend learning a language, now I want to spend more of it with Duolingo.
A++ Duolingo Web Design Team :)
I cannot see the definitions of words I already know in order to check myself, Maybe I can but I have know idea how.
I too dislike change but I will always know that DL has the best interests of the learners in sight. Way to go DL. You will rock us... right I know I cannot sing!
When I am translating, the translation box constantly jumps to the left covering up the passage I am translating. This was always annoying but now it is much worse. One click on a passage the box jumps halfway across the page and lands on top of the passage I'm trying to read.
OTHER THINGS I'M CONCERNED WITH: I am not the most outstanding translator and I learn a lot when people improve my translations. Sometimes I've seen a more literal translation which would never be used in a technical article replace what I think is a more usual translation. For example "indicates uniquely" would be "determines" in US mathematics idiom. That said, I know there are different conventions in the scientific community in different countries and across disciplines.
No interest in communicating over Facebook. The social media are big time sinks, and my time is better spent working directly on Duolingo than chatting about it.
Is there anyway you can get the TEX passages to show up in the Translation Box? Can they be rendered as jpegs or something so they can be copied directly. The scientific articles have a number of problems, but not being able to use TEX is a big one. That leaves gigantic holes in the translation. Another problem is that some of the math/science articles are broken up into little pieces that separate symbols from their subscripts. I assume you use some kind of lexer, and maybe you can get some open source angel to write a lexer for scientific articles (some CS grad student perhaps?).
Well I do not know if this is where I put a issue or not but it states here that anybody with the old design was changed into the new one, but I did not get this new design and I have been at this website for almost a year now sooo I probably am one of those users who have the old design. Any way, was this only to a certain amount of people, or is my sign in not working updating, or am I not one of those people who were selected for this redesign. I hope its something that I must have done because I really want to see this redesign. Thank You and keep working hard Duolingo staff. Thank You!!
The usability of the new design seems great! The design itself though... seems a bit infantalized? Why is it geared towards kids suddenly?
Love the new design, other than the background for the progress bar being too faint. I had to adjust the gamma on my monitor to see it at all!
I'm half heartedly (pun intended!) missing the partial hearts on the web version for correcting mistakes, but as they were never there on my iPad version, I'm also glad the two platforms are now the same.
Please keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to finish my French tree.
Luis - The new design is lovely. I think it is quite pretty, & now that you have restored my "Buho Dorado" I am very happy with the changes. Mil gracias for all the hard work that you & your team put into Duolingo every day. I feel very fortunate (as well as honored) to be a participant in this marvelous experiment that helps translate the web & allows people all over the world to communicate with each other better, for free! I have 185 students & I recommend Duolingo to all of them. Duolingo rocks! Keep up the excellent work.
I like the new design. I'm extremely nearsighted, so I find the larger icons and new font much easier to see.
If you happen to have a scrollwheel on your computer mouse, it makes it very easy to change the scaling of sites as needed. You can hold down ctrl on the keyboard and scroll up and down to change the zoom level. (There are other ways to do it, that's just usually the easiest.)
It can be a huge help for sites where you find that making fonts a bit bigger would be more comfortable.
I don't care much about the new design. I don't care much about the heart lost. I don’t know where to put this entry. So many comments to go through to see whether someone already wrote about the point I care! when I’m doing my 30sec practice, this will help if I can quickly distinguish between translate what you read vs. Type what you hear. Options are: different fonts, or different color; I just don’t want to read the directions, but figure out by perceiving briefly the lay out of the screen.
I quit facebook some time ago and totally don't care about the facebook connectivity or any of that. I got the design update yesterday, showed my girlfriend who also uses duolingo, and we both said "wow, they changed the page layout." That was pretty much where it ended. Same functionality. Same good website. Thanks for the AWESOME FREE LANGUAGE WEBSITE. You won't be hearing any complaints from us over petty entitlements.
Congratulations, but I miss reviewing levels that have some incomplete lessons, this had been available in the old design, now I have to revise lessons one by one in an incomplete level
I'm afraid I haven't gotten the new update yet. Is there something wrong with my computer?
Nothing wrong with your computer. Not everyone has the new layout yet. They will within the next few weeks though. :)
"We are also working on a new version of the vocabulary page". But where is the vocabulary page now?
When you say anybody, do you mean everybody? I still have the old design !?
wait a sec guys what is "Facebook" ? I did not understand it , is it a butter manufacturer or something like that?
I really really like the new design! It's true that you have to stay improving, and knowing duolingo does that, makes me love it even more! Only one thing I don't like: the vocabulary page is gone! It was something I was using very often, so I hope it will be back soon. (but it's ofcourse a good thing that there comes a new version of too, so I'm really curious!)
The new design appeared for me yesterday for some minutes, but then I got the old design back till now. I figured you did that to fix some things, but it seems this is not the case. What happened?
For the record, I thought it was a little "bubble-gummy" when I first saw it, but I sincerely like it. I think it's much easier to use on many levels. And I'm no game-playing kid.
I am just really happy that this project has a team like this. Always trying to improve, always trying to add new things, always thinking about new ways to learn and how better can one do it.
Keep up the good work
Duolingo deserves to be visually beautiful! Duolingo keeps reassuring me that it has the best team in the world. And that team surely includes excellent designers.
I like the new design very much. It's very neat and appealing. Thank you Duolingo! ^^
I personally don't mind the change and actually like the new look of it. Even though it requires me to look harder for things that were once familiar, it does seem to have a smoother look to it. The one thing that I feel was absolutely detrimental from the change was the removal of the vocabulary section. I liked being able to look at the different words I knew and the ability to practice a couple of words that wouldn't quite stick in my mind. I'm sure the change was for the better but I think bringing the vocabulary back is necessary for further progess. I don't think it should be necessary to open up a new tab to google translate when I'm already on a language learning site.
Also, UK international keyboard not working anymore so I cannot directly type in accents etc. I prefer to do that than using the little buttons.
I've just discovered that all of the keyboard layouts I've been using to enter special characters are broken in Duolingo's new text areas.
Looks beautiful and it's still very functional and straightforward. You guys are doing a great job, congrats :)
The new design is very nice. But I did not find vocabulory section which was quite convenient. Will it be in this new version? Thank you!
I would really like to have the vocab list back because I use them with flashcards when I'm not online. That's my only complaint with the new layout, everything else has been nicely revamped.
The new frontpage looks better but I can not reach duolingo on mobile anymore. For the features do not exist in mobile application I was oftenly visiting the web page but now when I try to access duolingo on chrome mobile I lost the connection... Chrome closes itself and warnings etc...
I love new design, it inspires me, makes me want to come on the site more, I love finding the new features and appreciating all the design features, Every change is a step to improving, Maybe i see it differently as a designer my self, but I wanted to say a very well done to you all for your hard work x x
Hello. The new site is great, but for computers only. On my iPad it works pretty crusty. Sometimes the main section doesn't even show up, and the voice samples take quite a while to load.
UK international keyboard is working now and I can type accents directly from the keyboard - so that little gremlin is fixed - thankyou.
I really love the new design, and know the importance of consistency cross devices, but I'm still in old version on web, and using the new design on my pad. sigh, tried refreshing a lot to get to the new version, but failed. Once I log in, the old version comes back. How can I fix it?
I still don't have the new version and I would like to have it. I like the way the new version looks but for some reason I still don't have it.
since the update, my progress is not posting to facebook, please fix this!
I like this redesign so much :) But I really don't have anything with facebook, I have an opinion on fb and it will not change so the whole "facebook" is really not my thing :D
Is there any word about posting on your own stream? I want to tell my followers that I'm having a bad day, so that no one thinks I'm ignoring them. If I posted that message to each person separately, my stream would be very spammy. Also, if I were able to post separate messages, I probably wouldn't need that functionality anyway.
I hope I'm not repeating something that's already been discussed to death. I did a quick search and didn't find much.
Thank you. I really like the new design.
Hello. I did made a tweet complaining about the microphone exercises crashed my browser. However, it seems to be a one-time problem. After I allowed the browser for the site to use the microphone (first time), it crashed. But the second times, it remembered the option and doesn't prompt me again. Thus, problem does not re-occur. New design looks nice.
The new interface worked for once or twice, and then it never came back. Is anyone else experiencing this problem where their design is not updated?
I still haven't received the upgrade yet. do I have to do something to get the update?
You're not missing anything, don't worry! I wish I could turn my account BACK!
I found some other issues that truly do not bother me, but to get the site running perfectly I wanted to pass on the info. I've noticed sometimes the text on the page gets shifted, it looks like, even the writing on the header is off the balloon that encircles them. Also in the lessons, sometimes the blinking cursor stay in the beginning static and doesn't follow you as it should.
All that I wouldn't have mention if it where not for having this question, so I figured why not. When my cursor goes over words I should know, I no longer see the "You Peaked" bubble appear. So is that a change in the new redesign, we are no longer penalized for peaking?
I really dislike losing a heart when I make a careless typo, or accidentally translate something instead of typing what I hear. I liked that the old version gave me a chance to fix it - "Oops, that response doesn't seem to be in Spanish", or just notifying me I had a typo. I never got "credit" for an actual language mistake, so I thought the system was pretty advanced to be able to figure out that it was a typo. For these reasons, before the redesign I always preferred doing Duolingo on my laptop as opposed to my iPad since the mobile design is the newer version. I do get that the lesson here is for me to be more careful, but it's still irritating to be penalized for mistakes that are technical rather than related to language learning.
whats the deal with the new version of the microphone.. doing the strengthen options takes extra seconds off due to having to keep re-clicking the damned items.. it used to just remember.. beyond annoying and caused me to not get near as many as i should have.
If I don't have the redesign yet, how much longer do I have to expect to wait?
Heeeelp! I really like the new version, but when I logged in to do a lesson on an old browser It had to revert me to the old one, and now I'm stuck with it even when I logg in on chrome. How do I get the new version back?
I'm now spending more time reading the negative comments on the "new design" than actually studying. That's because there are more negative ones than positive LOL. I used to compete with my friends but now I can't see how they are progressing. It was a brilliant site
I really like the new design , but I think the vocabulary section mean a lot to my study . So I want to know how can I get it back ?
Rabble, rabble, rabble... we don't like change and why does change have to happen?
This new layout does not feel as 'smooth' as it did before. It feels awkwardly large and placed.
But with due time I am sure we can grow accustomed to it. But really... really really...
Perfectionist or not you can't catch lightning in a bottle. Rather than re-designing the marketing/appearance aspect of your wonderful service how about expanding that service. From more dynamic/flexible lesson approaches, better explanation, vocabulary building, cultural/history background, idioms, and the like. Language is not in a vacuum which I am sure you know.
Thank you for your commitment and vigilance. Most of this I trust or at least hope is not new to you. From my Italian heritage I have connected with through learning to my Italian friend whom I have impressed with what I have learned thus far... you are doing an amazing service. Between the chasing after illusions of perfection and dealing with user complaints... admire what you are doing.
Maybe have a lower-bandwidth site as an option? Less flash, same curriculum?
I recently moved from techtastic Thailand to Internet-poor India, and found I could not load this new site at all. I was pretty sad. But then, would the old site have loaded? I don't know.
Appreciate that this post was turned into a Facebook-bashing extravaganza. I was hoping to find information about the progress bar being more visible. It might be helpful to new users if the posts could stay on-topic.
Jan 2018 still no vocab lists? I've checked on the app (iOS), and the desktop version (i.e. the full site as viewed on an iPhone - not travelling with laptop). I really miss it for Chinese as I'd like to practise the reading and writing of the characters without lumping around a big notebook (handluggage-only nomad language learner)
Maybe have a color variant options to suit different people's needs and tastes. I personally would prefer if the background was less pure white, and the flags would have the pure white instead. Also the flags should go back on the trophies. Other than that I think the app version is fine visually. But, I seldom use the app because the health system is too demotivating.
Would it be possible to switch between the two different designs as I prefer the old one to this one
Hello I agree with the posts below regarding Eye strain from using the new look, I can appreciate the appeal of making something more game like and mobile App friendly however, those of us who use Duolingo on a PC now find it to be a hugely bright Eye strain there does not seem to be an easily accessible way to switch colour schemes to something more User friendly. I was asked to choose a colour scheme on first set up, there doe not appear to be anyway to change this now without losing all progress other than by setting up a new account some guidance would be most appreciated. :-)