https://www.duolingo.com/MrGWallCymraeg

Full sentence answers in the hints

UPDATE 010616: Diolch to those who contributed on here and on the Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/welshduolingo/). The results of 16 people show: 14 people (87.5%) against having the full sentences and 2 people (12.5%) for. Therefore, we shall go with the majority consensus and not include full sentence answer unless it's with an idiomatic phrase which cannot be worked out with the single word hints.

Please can I remind everyone that notes are available which will, more often than not, give explanations on grammar etc.

Shwmae, bawb,

Just a quick "gauge" of peoples' opinions: do you prefer to have full sentence answers or not in the hints, and why?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Malwen
Malwen
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I don't like full sentence hints. I use the hints when I have forgotten the meaning of a singe word and I get annoyed when Duo shows me the full answer. I think the hints should be like looking a word up in a dictionary. If I can't remember how to construct a particular sentence I would prefer to get it wrong rather than be told in the hints exactly what to write.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tattamin
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+1

ETA: I very much appreciate your asking the learners of the course, much unlike duolingo's general tendency of dumbing down everything. It is great that you volunteers at least seem to have this option of tweaking things a little bit.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MoChuisleMoChroi
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I like them when context changes the traditional meaning of a single word or words.

A very, very loose example would be "break a leg" which in most situations means "good luck", while still litteraly meaning "snap the bones of your lower limbs"

Other than that, single word translations are much more beneficial.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alison233278

I prefer word-by-word hints so that I can check a word I'm not sure of and still work out the rest myself.

Having said that, if the particular sentence is very atypical for some reason, then a full sentence can be useful (I'm sorry but I can't think of an example in Welsh at the moment).

Diolch!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrGWallCymraeg

My personal two cents is that I don't like them as when my learners are using Duolingo and hover over an answer, they see it full and don't try and bother to work it out. This will add to their "learned helplessness" when it comes to being faced with translations that don't have the full sentence which makes them lazy language learners.

It would be my vote to include phrase translations but NOT full translations for "obscure" translations where one-word translations don't help then to work out the meaning of the sentence.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SaraGalesa
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On the whole, I prefer not to have full sentence hints. In the French and Spanish courses, (for example) you have to learn / remember that most adjectives go after the noun. So I think it's better you have to learn that in this course as well, rather than being given the whole answer when you can't remember what "thin" is... or whatever.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rosie-Owen
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I sometimes forget my mutations so I use it when I'm like "Do I mutate here?" but I don't like the idea of it giving me the whole sentence.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kinga901538

I agree with the majority: it would be better if the hints are just for the requested words and the rest the learner has to find out.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ayrhead

I'm very new to DuoLingo, but eventually I would like to have full sentence answers in the latter stages of learning as this how I will read things in the real world. Thats my 2c :-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fairestandfallen

I think that initially providing single-word answers with an option to scroll down to the full sentence would provide a nice balance.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrGWallCymraeg

I don't think that option will be available, as the correct answer will be given if an incorrect answer is given.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pinkcordelia

Nac ydw! Dw i ddim yn hoffi full sentence answers. Neithiwr, dw i eisiau just to look up one word - when it tells me the whole sentence I can never be sure if I'd have got it without help - not just the words but the structure of particular phrases. Clearly translating each word one by one often ends up with a garbled translation - that's where I think the notes can come in helpful for giving an overview of particular constructions. Really enjoying the course BTW - reinforcing what I've learned via Say Something in Welsh.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Doshia2
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I often like having phrases, but I agree that having them below the single word would be best. If I don't know the answer, it is helpful to me to be able to type the answer correctly to facilitate learning it.

2 years ago
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