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Yeah, but people either don't know that or don't care.
"Owoce, (w znaczeniu botanicznym) są warzywami według klasyfikacji towarów spożywczych"
"[...]So, the answer to the question is that a tomato is technically the fruit of the tomato plant, but it's used as a vegetable in cooking."
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Never mind the response you got, I agree with you. And it makes sense; I like vegetables except for the tomato, since its a fruit. At least it's a logical interpretation.
Why isn't "I like vegetables except for tomatoes" accepted as a translation? It gave me the same answer but with a singular tomato, which actually sounds a little odd to my native English ear.
Well, the Polish sentence used a singular tomato, which also seems odd to my ear. I guess it makes sense to accept it, not as an exact translation, but as a more logical answer. Added now.
Native American English ear, and "except for tomato" sounds grammatically correct.
It can work singular, like "I'll have a hamburger with everything except tomato, please."
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'apart from' tomato would be an English alternative to 'except for' tomato - it means the same
As a UK English speaker not many people would use this English phrase. One wouldn't mix plural vegetables with singular tomato. It would be " I like vegetables except for tomatoes".
Yes, exactly. If we talk about Nominative of course, and as it's neuter (and not masculine-personal in plural), the Accusative forms look the same.
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I like all vegetables but tomatoes IS CERTAINLY IDIOMATIC BRITISH ENGLISH (I'm not sure it sounds quite right without the "all", though)
"I like vegetables except for the tomato." doesn't make much sense, tomato should be without article, unles you mean one specific tomato and in that case the sentence shoul be rather "I like these vegetables except for the tomato" to sound natural...
I've found it quite typical for Polish people to put "the" wherever they can even if it doesn't belong there (for example city names, even names of people sometimes) ;)
"Except for the tomato" sounds... oddly intense. Like the speaker has a dark, troubled history with tomatoes. Some traumatic event in their childhood was caused by a tomato and now they feel nothing but hatred for this monstrosity of a food item.
"the tomato" is fine here. It's the same "the" as in "The shark is an apex predator." In English this does not mean a particular shark, it means sharks as a species. In Spanish we also have this, "El tiburón es un superpredador." It does not mean a specific shark, it means the species "shark", the collective of all sharks. Here we consider the tomato as a species of plant. "The tomato is a red fruit", "El tomate es una fruta roja."
I was not going to add comments any more, but the lack of agreement of nouns is too much. How about this: I like vegetables (note plural) except for tomatoes (note plural).
Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. Philosophy is wondering if ketchup is a smoothie
Although a tomato is not a vegetable . . . The sentence in English should be: I like vegetables (plural) except for tomatoes (plural).
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I typed lubi in the listening exercise and got it marked as correct, not even as a typo. On the other hand, I in no way could hear the ę...
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Why is 'I like vegetables but tomatoes' incorrect? Here 'but' is in the meaning of 'except for'.
It needs another pronoun to have this meaning, like 'anything but' or 'everyone but'.
Well, there is no 'all' in the Polish sentence, but I guess it wouldn't hurt adding "all vegetables but" to the database.
