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Duobot is messing up Immersion

ziggKogg
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Some staff member should really check up on Duobot, it's uploading pornography related articles into Immersion.

4 years ago

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
Puddleglum
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So, should we report Duobot for not following the guidelines? ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AbraxunsIllusion

Probably. It said nothing offensive would be accepted in the discussions.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

I don't believe in censorship especially when it comes to language. I do however recommend an explicit/adult content warning for younger duo users. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

So? It's not like the Wikipedia articles feature porn videos. They are simply informative. Here is an example from the German section: http://www.duolingo.com/translation/a371f5ea266f7f6fc485b894a8342577

If you don't want to translate those articles, then you don't have to.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
Puddleglum
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Disclaimer for you: These are objective observations. They are not necessarily my personal opinions. They are objective.

Still, I'm not sure parents would be willing to let their kids on the site if their kids came away with the birds and the bees.

Informative: yes. Appropriate for all people: no.

I'm not saying it's Duo's responsibility to parent, but it's an educational utility as well. My class might start using Duolingo and if the school board reviews it and finds pornography related articles, they might block it on this domain. So while the articles are informative, maybe they're not the type of informative that should be here for all users.

Sex is also a private matter and might make people uncomfortable and to leave the site.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

I think that there should be some parental/teacher settings then so that people who want to censor Wikipedia articles related to pornography and pretend that kids don't know about sex can have their way. I find these articles perfectly appropriate for all ages. I'm not scared of the human body and I feel that others shouldn't be either. If we censor these articles, then why not articles that contain references to and depictions of violence? Those are far worse if we play the "Think of the children!" game and far more numerous in the Immersion section.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
Puddleglum
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Sadly, we don't have those yet. Again. It's not just children. Schools use this site for students. If school boards review it or anyone raises a concern about any sort of problem, classes won't be able to use it anymore. That's how American education works: it's a carpet bombing system. It's fumigating the whole neighborhood for a wasp's nest. Having porn-related (though not specifically porn) articles might cause this.

I know a lot of kids know about sex. But we all like to pretend they're innocent. I was that way to my parents and my sister is like that to me. I know she's in school and probably what she's hearing, but I'd like to think she doesn't know that yet.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FelixKatze

I agree with what you say to an extent, but I doubt many schools block Wikipedia itself, so why would they block this site just for mirroring various pages of Wikipedia?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
Puddleglum
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It's just difficult to know what will happen. Wikipedia is hard to block because it is so broad. If Duobot uploads too many inappropriate articles and one catches the eye of the wrong person, it might be a problem. Personally, I'd prefer if articles like that were filtered and put in a separate place. Again, Duo shouldn't be a parent, but it should be appropriate.

I also know people know about it, but you wouldn't talk to an acquaintance about pornography or sex. Those things are more private and usually reserved for closer people.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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This is a non-issue, Duolingo will probably have a school version soon. Once that happens they can ban the immersion, or allow the school to decide which articles to upload for their learners. Easy as pie, no filtering, no headaches, and each school decides the nonsense they want to upload.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kassandra8286
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And yet the filter rejects Wikipedia articles on Pablo Picasso and Eva PerĂ³n (just to name a few) for having offensive content.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ziggKogg
ziggKogg
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Think of the children! Hehehe.. ;)

4 years ago