"I had wet weather."

Translation:Ges i dywydd gwlyb.

May 19, 2016

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'Ces i' and 'Ges i'? Is there a difference? Are they both from 'cael'? Any explanation gratefully received. Thanks.

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Strictly speaking the statement should be 'Ces i' and the question should be 'Ges i?'

However in general usage in many parts of Wales 'Ges i' is used for the both the statement and the question. The WJEC course uses this and as this is the closest to an official spoken Welsh standard we have followed its lead.


They are both the same form of cael. In colloquial usage, affirmative verb-forms of cael (and of gwneud, too) are often mutated. The reason is that they are often used with the fe, mi, particles which mark an affirmative statement and which cause soft mutation. Even when the particles are not used, their ghostly presence can still cause the mutation:

  • Fe/Mi ges i neges - I got/had a message
  • Ges i neges
  • Ces i neges

Mutation without the particles can lead to confusion with the question form, which is also mutated (but because of a different ghostly particle!), so you need to be alert for the rising intonation at the end of a spoken question:

  • Ges i neges? - Did I get a message?


Diolch both. Mae'n anodd i ddysgu Gymraeg! There are so many things that can go wrong!


I have come across several explanations of grammar that I would like to refer to. The discussion web pages are all only labelled as "https://www.duolingo.com/practice", so I can't get back to a specific explanation. Cyngor plis?


If you go to the course 'index' - where you see the icons for the various sections - using a web browser rather than the app, the section notes are available at the bottom of the starting page for each section of the course, beneath the list of lessons for that section.

At the moment, the Duo app does not give access to the notes, although this is apparently planned for the future.

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