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I cannot get my head around the accusative case!

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Saluton al ĉiuj,

The accusative case is driving me crazy! I have read the tips and notes in the accusative skill, but I can't understand it!

I know why it is used, but I don't know when you use it. There are some sentences that make me wonder "why is the accusative used here?".

If someone could tell me all the situations when the accusative case is used, I would be very grateful.

Dankon por via helpo!

2 years ago

19 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/salapls
salapls
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I have found this post.

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/9650731

It's like german but it's also used when expressing duration of time and when expressing lengths or quantities.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/otsogutxi
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Thanks! Just what I was looking for:)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jzsuzsi
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You are level 25 in German, maybe you got used to Accusative case along the way...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/otsogutxi
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This is Esperanto:) I'm fine with the German Accusative case:)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jzsuzsi
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How often does it happen that Esperanto uses accusative where the german equivalnt would not use it? Or vice versa (I really don't know, it would be interesting to look up.)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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My impression is that there aren't many differences. The biggest difference is that for many nouns, the nominative and accusative are the same in German.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/otsogutxi
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Esperanto uses the accusative case a lot more!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/orthohawk
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True, however, the same situations where German uses the accusative (think about when the masculine article is "den" instead of "der"), Esperanto also uses the accusative. Russian has the same kind of thing, except with Russian it's feminine nouns that have the consistently different form.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ionasky
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Tall order to cover every possible situation and it would take better esperantists than i ( they will no doubt be along soon) but what is the main problem? Working out when you must use it or those things that mean you don't have to - such as the verb 'to be' etc? The main thing to look out for is - Is somone doing something to something or someone else? If so the one being done unto needs the accusative on the noun, as well as any pronouns, possessive pronouns and adjectives associated with it. I think Time and duration also has specific requirements.

I make quite a few mistakes so like I say, take my advice with a pinch of salt but these days I have started looking at longer pieces of esperanto writing, specifically looking for the accusative and working backwards to see why it needs to be there. And conversely looking to see when i might have been tempted to use it but it isn't there. This is because i find the descriptions in grammar examples don't always makes sense to me and i have to translate the rules into my own way of looking at the world and remember examples in context.

Sorry this isn't what you were looking for in terms of comprehensive list of rules but i am interested in your problem becasue to some extent i share it as it is one of the things that still trips me up, although sometimes i have started to use the accusative automatically, just because it 'feels right'. Sometimes experts can't always see what the problem is , it is so natural to them, so hang on in therre I am sure we will all get there eventually.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/otsogutxi
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Thanks for your help. I'm looking for someone to explain when to use it/which situations it is used in. I have seen it in certain sentences and I don't know why it is used in them.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ionasky
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Do you have examples of the sentances where it is used and you don't know why?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/otsogutxi
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I'll find them and take a few screenshots.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Qwazicolt
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the article doesn't change but you just add the letter n as a suffix to the end of the noun and other words. Mi hava la pomon, mi sxatas mangxas fragojn,

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/orthohawk
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Mi sxatas mangxi fragojn, not mangxas.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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Mi havas la pomon - not hava.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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Cxu vi jam vidis tiun fadenon?

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/9650731

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GrandaUrso

Great thread!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/akeley116
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It seems to be kind of like the (rare) instances of case in English (just pronouns). You use "I" as a subject pronoun and "me" as an object pronoun. So, if the sentence is about the apple, you say "pomo" but if the apple is having something done to it (like being eaten) you say "pomon."

2 years ago