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Practice your Spanish & learn a little about Duolingo's cofounder, Luis von Ahn ;)

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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"Celebridad Geek" - priceless!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/le-lapin-noir
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"Guatemala no es Guantanamo" It seems Duke needs to require a geography course. :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/0liwia
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This is my favorite part!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chilvence
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Oh dear... obviously, the poor buggers had never seen Yakko's World : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1qkLn6IRI

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lyarra
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What an incredible page...and...thanks to my months at DL, I was able to read (most of) it and didn't have to look up any words!!! Thanks for posting this link. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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¡Me encantó! Muchas gracias, @kristinemc.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aiigsh
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Thanks, I enjoyed reading about Luis.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caselthor
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So uh... How accurate is that reference at the bottom to Dothraki (the constructed language from Game of Thrones)?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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Is that what the 'nuqneH' was? I was curious about what language that would be. And if someone volunteers to build a course, built it will be lol.

Edit: I missed the title of that section. Just saw it. But still wondering what 'nuqneH' is from.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caselthor
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That word looks backwards because of the capitalization, so I would assume it is Klingon since Klingon's word order is OVS (the exact opposite of English and other languages).

Good eye!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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The word order wouldn't change the capitalization, the direction of the script would. English grammar is "subject verb object", but Klingon being "object verb subject" doesn't mean it would be written "tcejbus brev tctjbo", you get what I mean? Klingon might also be written right to left for all I know, but that has nothing to do with grammar.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caselthor
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You asked me what language it was, and I told you I assumed it was Klingon. Do you know of any major language that has capitalization at the end of a word in the Latin alphabet? Then why wouldn't it be a safe assumption that it is Klingon since a language constructor would base the writing system on the grammar which would have to be constructed first? I'm sorry. I feel like you're being rude by asking for my thought and then rejecting it.

Edit: Plus, that word is mentioned in the same comic square that mentions Dothraki and Klingon, which is why you assumed it might be Dothraki, I guess. I've looked at the grammar for both conlangs, and it's definitely not Dothraki. So based on my knowledge of Klingon, it's definitely Klingon.

As for natural languages, the grammar and spoken language always comes first. Either the script as designed for the language or the language adapts a script. So actually, the writing system is either based on the grammar (mandarin) or adopted after the fact.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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I'm not saying it's not Klingon, and I'm not saying it's Dothraki either. I'm just trying to tell you that the order of SVO or OVS has nothing to do with script direction. You're mixing two unrelated concepts.

And that's not an accurate description of Mandarin either but it's not important.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caselthor
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  1. I think you're limiting your imagination to what language do and could do. Klingon is a constructed language, and I imagine Marc Okrand wanted the written language to reflect the grammar of the language. That seems reasonable enough. So those aren't two unrelated concepts to a conlanger, and they're not two unrelated concepts to a linguist. When you consider how languages evolve, something as important as grammar (half a language) or syntax would certainly influence the writing system, conlang or not. So grammar has everything to do with a writing system.

  2. Not an accurate description of Mandarin? I was referring to Chinese characters (the writing system). Spoken language always comes before written language. Chinese characters were certainly designed to differentiate between the homonyms in writing and even homonyms in speaking (very important since a word like "kan" has around five different meanings based on the tone and a homonym can also have the same tone but a different Chinese character), and this is why I said the Chinese characters were based on Mandarin's grammar. The writing system is so important to the language that I constantly hear "No, wrong character" when I'm just speaking. Perhaps you know all this though.

Then other languages, such as Old Korean and Vietnamese, adopted Chinese characters. Then modern Korean designed its own alphabet based on the needs of the spoken language. Vietnamese now uses a modifed alphabet to fit the needs of the language. So how are writing systems not based on the grammar of the already existing spoken language or just adopted and adapted?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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Limiting my imagination? I never said it's not possible, but according to your argument a right to left script would have some implication on the grammars of Arabic and Hebrew (I believe) or any other script written that way, which it doesn't. It's just the direction you're writing in. Languages can be SVO, OVS, SOV, or any combination, and still be written left to right OR right to left. The direction doesn't matter.

I know you were referring to the characters, which have been used for thousands of years by millions of people who speak grammatically and phonetically mutually incomprehensible varieties of Chinese, and of which I can recognize about 5,000 having passed HSK 6, studied Chinese for five and a half years, and lived in China for two years. Differentiating between homonyms isn't grammar. It's vocabulary. The only grammatical importance to Chinese characters is that Chinese words never change their form, whereas other languages that began using Chinese characters did have words that change form so they needed to develop alphabets to reflect word changes (also learning thousands of characters is quite time-consuming). The rest is just representation of vocabulary and sounds.

But the only thing I pointed out was that script direction is not related to word order. Which is true. I'm not sure why you're arguing so adamantly around that.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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I didn't even say you were wrong. I said a language being OVS is no reason to assume it's written left to right because they're NOT connected. They're just not. I give up.

Edit: I was curious enough to look it up. It is Klingon, and the language is written left to right like English. The capitalization is an orthographical choice and sometimes differentiates between different sounds, and the first letter of sentences is not capitalized.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caselthor
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I'm familiar with HSK as a teacher at 北京语言大。I'm proud of your achievement, but you simply said that I'm wrong without providing any evidence, which doesn't prove you right.

When I talked about those concepts not being unrelated, I never said it applies universally. I only said it's a possibility and because one can't assume there's absolutely no connection. Edit: You also can't separate lexicon from grammar: "lexicogrammar."

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ViArSkoldpaddor

What does the word order have to do with capitalization?

Hint: The direction of writing is completely arbitrary. English: left to right. Hebrew: right to left. Japanese: top to bottom, with columns ordered right to left. Russian: left to right. And finally: Latin was written as boustrophedon for a long time, ie the direction of the script and letters alternated from one line to another, so that the reader's gase didn't have to jump to the beginning of the next line. Cheers!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alexalovesopera

is he still alive

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ayePete
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Yes. See for yourself: www.duolingo.com/Luis. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/porquepuedo
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;) that was such a sweet question

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alexalovesopera

my question

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ragedhalomaniac

i am not good at spainish so the only words i got were human crowdsourcing stalkers and mario

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ragedhalomaniac

well that and a few others

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/porquepuedo
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Interesting :D plus I could understand the whole thing. Thanks Duolingo!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/1000mun
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Link didn't work for me.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ALoUSyUseRnaME
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Why wasn't it working for me?

4 years ago