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https://www.duolingo.com/CattleRustler

Bring back Fix Mistakes as an option?

Any chance of bringing back the "Fix Mistakes" button as a user setting/option? It's terrible when you lose a heart for a simple typo, in an otherwise perfect answer. I answered a Translate to Spanish phrase, which was not for beginners, and I was so proud as I pressed Check Answer, only to get it marked wrong and lose a whole heart because I typed cuidad instead of ciudad

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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I recently had a three lines long sentence which I got entirely correct except the second word where I typed "teo" instead of "two". Yeah. I want that function, too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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The team found out that most users with this option were not practicing as much and were not returning as often. They probably did this because the corrections gave them false confidence whenever they made mistakes and they advanced too fast. So, later in the tree, the users would find they were out of their depth.

It was useful for correcting mistakes, I know, but it seemed it was doing more harm than good.

The team is conducting a smaller experiment by giving a small group of users the option and retesting the results.

I understand it's frustrating to lost hearts over little things. I type too fast and I do it too. But, it helps to read over your sentence before you hit enter.

Good luck! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dwduo
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It seems like the team is relying on metrics a bit overmuch, when they could just ask us for input and opinions. Combine the opinions with the metrics if necessary and go from there. It would go a ways toward retaining beloved features (I'm looking at you, Vocabulary Page...) and the users who love them.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/danny667
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well, yeah, however sometimes even we don't know whats best for us and can only find out over trial and error methods and time. :/

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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The way I see it, opinions are biased, but the team's metrics aren't. The correct mistake option was just an experiment, anyway. It was a large one, but not everyone had the option, from what I know.

The vocab page is coming back. kristinemc has said that they've taken it down for right now, but they're working on it. It's going to come back better than ever soon!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/danny667
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I see you almost everywhere, you give people lingots for the silliest reasons (which is very kind don't get me wrong.) i mean you are someone who has influenced me even though i've only seen your comments a few times. maybe im a bit off topic but i just wanna say you are a very kind person and we need more people like you not only in DL but the WORLD. i hope i have made your day as you have made so many other people :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CattleRustler

please consider practice streaks in your decision making process on who gets that version, I am 80 days consecutive practice - thank you.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shanigans
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That is an interesting comment. I didn't have the correcting mistakes option but I know some people who did and as a teacher I thought that "having a second go" would be helpful and that people could learn from their mistakes .... I'm doing Italian and I often put he for she or a singular instead of a plural when translating for instance. I thought that I would have welcomed the possibility to correct my (careless) mistakes. I never thought that this would make people more confident and mean that they practised more so your comment is really food for thought. And you are right "it helps to read over your answer before you hit enter" (and I always tell students to check their work before handing it in !)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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I'd like to have the option to correct my mistake, but not gain the half heart. Half hearts allowed users to make five mistakes in a lesson. So, they could miss a quarter of the total questions. I was one of the users that went to fast and then quickly found out that I didn't know the concepts as well as I should have. Having three hearts makes lessons difficult, but I think it helps reinforce the importance of perfection (maybe not perfection, but I think you get the point).

Since there's no pressure for failing lessons, it's not that bad to fail one and it's easy to restart and try again. For anyone that wants to get past a particularly difficult lesson, there's always a heart refill for four little lingots.

Those are my thoughts on it. I'm not missing getting half hearts back, but I do wish I could correct my mistake just to reinforce it, though not for hearts. :)

EDIT: To add on even more: Fixing mistakes was great for typos, but it's not great for correcting improper conjugations, genders, declensions, etc. That's where I mean that users would get over their heads.

In that respect, it's like what happens when a student cheats on a test. Sure, it might boost their GPA, but the student isn't going to understand the concepts, and that's going to hurt eventually, whether it be the next chapter, the exam, or college/life.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shanigans
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Yes I would agree with that. The opportunity to correct a mistake before seeing the correct answer but not get the half heart back. That way we could learn from our mistakes. I agree too that it is hard with only three hearts . I only very rarely use a heart refill as I work on the basis that if I can't do the exercise and get through it without losing all my hearts then I don't know it well enough and it needs repeating. BUT I am going very slowly through my Italian tree and each time I come on I do one or two revision exercises BEFORE doing anything new. (which is why I would also like to have the vocabulary page back ... it's been promised so just need to be patient), and that's wht I like the new "practice this skill" section when you have completed a group of lessons.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ozzychris
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Yes I agree - please bring back the 'fix mistakes' button- big time-saver

4 years ago