https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VioletteNoire

Er isst UNSER Essen?!

I stumbled upon this sentence on Duolingo - "Er isst unser Essen."...

I was wondering, why isn't it "Er isst unseres Essen."?

According to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unser, the accusative neuter form of 'unser' is 'unseres'...

As far as I remember 'essen' takes the accusative, so why is it still 'unser' in the sentence, as if it was nominative?

June 2, 2016

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobinV.

When a possessive pronoun refers to a noun that is neuter (das Essen), it does not change from its nominative form for the accusative case. This is true for those that refer to feminine nouns as well.

Here's a more thorough explanation: http://www.babelnation.com/german/courses/01_04_8.html :)

June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monika-E

Das Essen ist Akkusativ und unser ist im Nominativ und Akkusativ gleich.

June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/matfran2001

When it precedes a neuter name (that is, as a possessive determiner), its accusative form is "unser":

"Er isst unser Essen"

In other cases, you must use "unseres", as in "Das Essen ist unseres"="the food is ours" (where it acts as a possessive pronoun) or "Der Geschmack unseres Essens" = "The taste of our food" ( genitive case here).

http://www.deutschplus.net/pages/51

June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/muhmaff

"Unseres" wird nur im Genitiv verwendet, dazu müsste Essen jedoch mit "s" enden (Genitiv-S). "Die Herkunft unseres Essens", "Die Zukunft unseres Essens". Akkusativ: "Wen oder was essen wir?" - "unser Essen".

unser steht vor einem Substantiv/Nomen: look here: http://www.dict.cc/deutsch/unser.html

June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monika-E

Genitive does not always end with an s

Female nouns don't!

Die Frau (Nom) ist jung.

Die Hand der Frau ( Gen) ist kalt.

Ich gebe der Frau (Dat) die Hand.

Ich sehe die Frau (Akk).

Genitiv im Plural: ohne S.

Des Mannes - der Männer.

Der Frau - der Frauen.

Des Kindes - der Kinder.

June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/muhmaff

Yes, the only exception of the Genitiv-S is the feminine noun (Frau/woman). But "Essen" from the example is a neutral noun. I didn't have say, that the genitive always ends with an s/es. In genitive, the nouns ends with s or es, named as "Genitiv-S". Also, there are some rules, the "s/es" will not stand at the end (Kopernikus’ Entdeckung).

June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VioletteNoire

Thank you all guys!

If I used a masculine noun would it be:

  • Er isst unser Apfel

or

  • Er isst unseren Apfel ?
June 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pont

Take a look at the page matfran2001 linked and remember that what you want here is the "Possessivartikel" (possessive article), not the "Possessivpronomen". In the lower table you'll see that it's "unseren". Unfortunately the terminology isn't very standardized: some sources refer to the possessive article as the "possessive adjective" or "dependent possessive pronoun" -- but the important thing is to remember that the declension is different depending on whether your "unser" is attached to a noun or taking the place of a noun.

Edit: updated the link, since the deutschplus URL has changed.

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June 3, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monika-E

Er isst unseren Apfel. Apfel ist männlich.

With male nouns unser changes to unseres in Gen, unserem in Dat and unseren in Akk.

Female noun: unsere Küche , unserer Küche, unserer Küche, unsere Küche

June 3, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monika-E

'Unser' needs the same gender as the noun The noun is Akkusativ.

Wen oder was isst er? Das Essen.

unser - Nominativ. Wer oder was?.

unseres - Genitiv. Wessen?

unserem - Dativ. Wem oder was?

unser -Akkusativ. Wen oder was?

Er isst das Essen unseres Kochs.

Wer ist? Er.

Wessen Essen isst er? ...des Kochs.

Wen /was isst er? Das Essen.

Er gibt dem Koch das Esen.

Wem gibt er das Essen? Dem Koch.

June 2, 2016
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