Would anyone like to see a Tatar DUOLINGO course? I do not see Tatar listed among the list of wanted courses, so I have decided to help have a Tatar course for Duolingo. I would like to see Tatar courses for English and Russian speakers and speakers of other languages as well. I am looking for anyone that is interested in creating a Tatar course or a Chukchi or a Bashkir or Buryat or Yakut course for Duolingo to encourage Russian speakers to learn the more obscure languages of Russia and the former Soviet Union. I am looking to create interest for the Tatar language. I am planning to have Tatar be used in the Cyrillic, Latin, and Arabic alphabets as well. Words from Siberian Tatar can be used as well. I want people to learn Tatar and there is only one Turkic language on here and that's Turkish.
I plan on learning Tatar as well. My friend is a Tatar speaker from Russia and she can help us as well.
When I lived in Kazan, Russia in the Republic of Tatarstan, I was living with a Tatar family. I only picked up basic words like "hello" and "thank you" (since everyone speaks Russian anyway) but it was a very beautiful language to hear. I think it would be neat to see it offered here. Not only for English speakers but Russian speakers as well as Tatar is rapidly declining in popularity in the region. I went to a Tatar Language play and almost everyone in the theater needed a headset translation from Tatar to Russian.
I will say as a word of advice, it is very uncommon for the Arabic script to be used. Russian mandated that the Cryllic alphabet be used and the Tatar government approved the use of the Latin alphabet as well. In Tatarstan those will be pretty much the only scripts you will see on the street and day to day. It would be best to have one of those two scripts (Cryllic would be best) be apart of the course here in order to attract more learners and not scare anyone away with the difficult and almost never used Arabic script.
Tatar is a beautiful language and just the mention of it brings me back to the beauty of Tatarstan and the generosity of the Tatar people. I have many friends in Tatarstan that would love the opportunity to learn the old language of the region. It will be interesting to see if it ends up happening!
In the meantime (before a course of Tatar, hopefully, launches on Duolingo), besides "Ana tele" school, I'd like to refer people learning Tatar to the following resources:
pronunciations for many Tatar words, as well as a phrasebook, can be found on https://forvo.com/languages/tt/
suzlek.antat.ru gives access to many dictionaries published by the Institute for Language, Literature and Art of Tatarstani Academy of Sciences. The interface is not very pretty, but among other things, the site includes a Tatar-Russian-English dictionary.
Yandex Translator at translate.yandex.com supports Tatar.
Tatar is also on Mozilla's Common Voice (voice.mozilla.org). I guess that sentences read by native speakers there might be helpful too.
It was! I miss it a lot. The people are friendly and the food is amazing. I ate mostly Tatar food at home and I couldn't get enough of it! I hope to be back soon one day
Kazan felt very cosmopolitan and European to us. (Admittedly, I think coming from Ulyanovsk, it didn't have a lot of competition ;)) And the sun was shining the whole weekend we were there. I vaguely recall us wondering why we hadn't got to live somewhere so nice!! The people in Ulyanovsk were great, but the city itself was quite ugly and Soviet (in the stereotypical way) and such.
I don't think I've ever 'met' anyone who's been to Kazan before besides the people I was there with!
It is a very unique city with a blend of east and west. Not too many people have heard of it which makes it cool when you meet someone who has! When I lived there I primarily stayed in Tatarstan but I did take a quick vacation to Moscow. I hope to go back and see the rest the country has to offer!
This sounds interesting! Ukraine won Eurovision with 1944, a song sung in Crimean Tatar, and the song is pretty, so I would like to learn at least a couple phrases.
Crimean Tatar and Tatar are different languages. If you want to learn Crimean Tatar, you can start here: http://medeniye.org/en (if you know Russian). For learning the languages I also use the textbook "Qırımtatar tilini ögreniñiz", which you can download from internet (it is also in Russian).
Oh ok, I just assumed they were the same, and I will google translate that page since I don't know a word of russian xD
Hi! I've added this post to the [GUIDE] I would like a new course: What should I do?
Please, make sure you distinguish between the Volga Tatars aka Kazan Tatars and the Crimean Tatars, these are two different nations. I guess the author suggested creating a support group for the (Volga) Tatar language. Please, take a look at this facebook page, where all issues can be discussed - https://www.facebook.com/tatarduolingo
Omg, yes, it is my native language so I'm all for that! I think that the latin alphabet would be more suitable since a lot of tatars live outside Russia (Finland, Poland, Lithuania, etc.) and it is more convenient for our language in general rather than the cyrillic one. Still, the cyrillic alphabet is dominant and most of the literature is written in it. The arabic alphabet was one of the first writing systems of our language, bit it is not used anymore. P.S.: A big rähmät for that wonderful idea.
Perhaps there should be a Cyrillic/Latin switch on Duolingo for this course then...
This would be awesome! I'm a linguist currently studying this language! It'd be so useful.
HI! There is an Online Tatar language course that is free and available worldwide both in English and Russian. It is initiated by the president of Tatarstan Republic. so if you want to learn Kazan\Volga Tatar language - register here and start learning! https://anatele.ef.com/partner/anat/default.aspx?lng=en
My gf is Tatar but her first language is Kazakh and neither of us speaks Tatar so I would like to learn Tatar. But right now the problem is that I havent found a systematically written textbook for me to get feet wet, and since my gf doesn't speak the language, I dont have the immersive environment either. so i would love to see a Duolingo Tatar course.
I would love it if there were a duolingo course for Kazan Tatar. I speak the language, but would love to be able to practice to maintain fluency.
Same, I am a Kazan Tatar from China and although Kazan Tatar is technically my first language I never systematically studied it, and no one in my family speaks it anymore. Especially since I moved to Canada with my immediate family, because my parents went to a Chinese school and don't speak it
Yes, I would like to see Tatar or Crimean Tatar. I would like to improve on the language of my grandmother's family.
Depending on where you live, there may be a Tatar community you can connect with to improve your Tatar.
Hi Justin! I want to join you. Are you still considering creating Tatar course? If so, let's do it.
Tatar was actually my first language but I haven't spoken it for a really long time. I don't even know if I can pick it up anymore. If there is a Tatar course being created I will definitely try my best to help, but I'll probably land in the crowd that wants to learn it:)
I'm trying to learn Tatar. I suspect most of the documents out there are for russian speakers, it was hard to find something in eng. This site is the only thing I could find, https://anatele.ef.com/partner/anat/default.aspx?lng=en which I'm currently following. But it's beta and requires lots of improvements. I'm turkish, so I already understand something. I'm sure learning would be much more faster for me if there was something like tatar for turkish, if I could see the correspondence between the two.. Until that time, I'm trying to find something in eng, long route..
Here's is a comparative vocabulary list for different Turkic languages including Turkish and Tatar: http://www.geonames.de/wl-turkic.html
Tatar-Turkish dictionaries also exist. See https://www.amazon.com/Tatarsko-turetskiy-slovar/dp/5858402852
I just checked, and it shows that there are "no more licences available" so I can't use it. I have no idea what that means, but I think only a limited amount of people can use it?
I've heard that there are no more limits there, so you can try it: https://anatele.ef.com/partner/anat/default.aspx?lng=en
yes, there used to be 10 000 people limit, and now it is open and available worldwide in three languages (tatar, english and russian)
As a Tatar and as a person who can speak basic Tatar, but cannot speak fluently when it comes to more complex topics, I would like to see the course not only for beginners but also for (upper) intermediate level speakers. It is needed, because a lot of Tatars don't know their own language because of the ongoing assimilation politics in Russia, and many of them would like to know it. So two hands for it!
Hi everyone! A native speaker of Tatar here with a degree in philology and computational linguistics. I definitely want to contribute to a Tatar course for English speakers and can dedicate 2-3 hours daily to this project. I have applied to be a contributor at https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply and encourage anyone knowing the language and willing to contribute to do so as well.
Yes. I found a few small tatar courses on memrise. They were user made, not put out by Memrise itself.