https://www.duolingo.com/sophiejenkins16

who is learning welsh and do you think it is hard?

me, as a person learning welsh, I personally think welsh is not that hard because the words are really easy to remember.

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/DragonPolyglot
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Dw i dysgu Cymraeg, and it's hard at times, but being a Welsh person by blood who happens to think Welsh is a pretty language, I try my best. The words aren't too hard, it's the grammar that makes me moan in momentary defeat.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EllisVaughan
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Speaking of grammar remember "yn" is needed to connect the form of "bod" to thing thing being 'be-ed' or done i.e "Dw i'n dysgu Cymraeg.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DragonPolyglot
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Diolch. That proves my struggle with Welsh grammar, haha.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sophiejenkins16

hahaha!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sophiejenkins16

I am a quarter welsh and I decided I want to learn welsh and I love it!!!!!!!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabriel214008

well, it depends on the language you speak, if you speak another celtic language it will be easy to learn it, but in my case (i speak spanish) romance languages are not very related to welsh, so it's harder for me, still a great language

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Windrammer
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Romance langauges and Celtic languages come from the same branch though. Germanic languages are further away from Celtic than Romance languages are.

But still, Welsh is something of itself...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EllisVaughan
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I've never heard that the celtic and romance languages come from the same branch, instead that they are both separate branches of indo-european. Maybe you're thinking of the fact that Welsh has a decent number of romance loan words from Latin?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Deyan161
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From the little I've read, I gather that this is one of those highly contentious issues among experts in historical linguistics. Some identify an Italo-Celtic proto-language that split off from the western dialects of Indo-European and that then split into two branches; others think they're entirely separate branches. I believe (but I may be wrong) that it depends on what kind of statistics you do on the evidence. For what it's worth, the split must happened before 1000BC, probably a lot earlier, since there were 5 or 6 known separate Italic languages (which would have needed time to develop from proto-Italic) in existence in Italy by the time that town was founded on the banks of the Tiber.... It'd be great to hear from other people about this.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RebeccaCK
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Your English is also great!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/swingbeatnik7
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The Brythonic branch of the Celtic languages are easier than the Gaelic branch, in my opinion. Welsh isn't to difficult. If you're a native English speaker, it shouldn't be too hard, especially if you're from the UK.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CadetheBruce
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"The Brythonic branch of the Celtic languages are easier than the Gaelic branch, in my opinion." You should give Breton a go. When its insanely irregular "to be" constructions, maddening mutations and colloquial Breton vs "neo" Breton conflicts make you cry, I'll tell you about how the Gaelic languages are a lot less cruel.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sophiejenkins16

yes I am an English speaker but not from the uk and as you said I think it is a very easy language.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/swingbeatnik7
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I used to live in UK and now in America so really I don't think it'll be too difficult for any English speaker. The only part of the Welsh course I don't particularly like is knowing the Welsh names for towns and cities I've never heard of, even being from the UK. hahaha. Fishguard, Abergavawny, wut?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/asjaajaja

Ha, I'm not from the UK and the only Welshman I know is from Abergavenny, so it's the only place name I always get right. (I think my Welsh is better than his now... but apparently noone speaks Welsh in Abergavenny so he has an excuse.)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HerrArbo
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It's in a very English-speaking area of the South-east. According to the 2001 census 10% of the population of Abergavenny do.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/asjaajaja

Well, alright. He doesn't, though. But he likes to tell the story about how his Great-great-grandfather came to Abergavenny with nothing than the clothes he wore and a welsh bible, and not speaking a word of English ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HerrArbo
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In his great-great-grandfather's day you would probably get alonge fine without English in Abergavenny.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KarenBledsoe

I tried one of the suggested supplementary sites, where there are lots of short videos to hear people speaking Welsh. You can have Welsh or English subtitles, and there are helpful notes and practice videos: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/learnwelsh/bigwelshchallenge/

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StephenProsser1

In terms of listening to the language and being able to speak it fluently, Say Something In Welsh in by far and away the best source of learning Welsh. The speed at which you are able to learn to converse is incredible and you also very quickly gain a feel for the patterns of the language. The only thing the course doesn't do is provide a huge range of vocabulary (though this does not stop you becoming a fluent speaker!). Duolingo helps to add this vocabulary and the two courses combined are perfect for learning the language.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BriannaCro1

Say something in Welsh was my first introduction to Welsh, and I love love love the program. I've got all of the Southern Welsh saved to my phone and listen to it on my commute to classes/work. It was actually quite the shock when I started to use Duolingo for my Welsh lessons (going from listening and repeating to actually seeing the words was a bit confusing for me at least, and I even had cursory knowledge of Welsh phonetics and the alphabet).

Sadly I know no one else in my area who speaks even a smattering of Welsh

but have a lingot!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StephenProsser1

Just been following the SSi discussion on this site and it seems there are mixed experiences. For me, though, it is beneficial as it is allowing me to add vocabulary and thus expands the amount of things I can say in Welsh. What is fantastic though is that it has finally got me reading and writing some Welsh, which I have never previously attempted to do.

Like you, I do not have anyone in my area who speaks Welsh (indeed, most don't even think we speak English properly!). However, I do have opportunity to make connections with Welsh speakers in places like Czech Republic (!!) and will take advantage of this.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dave754769

Hi, you mention you have all the southern welsh saved, is the duolingo welsh course teaching me southern or northern welsh? Diolch

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ibisc
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This Duo course does not teach a particular dialect (there are four/five main dialect areas, not two - see the notes for the 'Dialects' section). It does cover a few of the common variations, though.

There are explanations of the variations in the notes for each section. More advanced courses generally start looking at dialects, and if you learn Welsh through the local government-spondored Dysgu Cymraeg system, then local variations are covered in more detail.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dave754769

I see, thankyou.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RobertOwen18

So glad you mentioned southern Welsh. It's quite different to what we speak up north. West Wales is also quite Welsh in places like Llandysul.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PurpleRootbeer36

Welsh is very easy for me, especially when compared to some other languages i'm learning. (Hebrew, Russian, and Ukrainian are probably the hardest for me.)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KannasanAweyl
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My first language is English (wish it wasn't, but it is) and my second language is Cornish. Because of my knowledge of Cornish I find Welsh fairly easy, much easier than Irish, but Cornish does interfere sometimes and I find I use Cornish instead of Welsh at times.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/frannyglass79

I don't think it's harder than other languages. It looks a bit funny at first from my native German point of view but once you learn the letters it's all fine. Also, i don't find the grammar that hard though that might be because German also has conjugated verbs for example. the one thing i find a bit challenging is learning noun gender which seems more random unlike say Italian. Mutations on the other hand really scared me but now i actually quite like them ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Woden123

I am learning Welsh and French simultaneously, and Welsh seems more difficult to me than French. Although I am surprised by the number of Welsh words borrowed directly from English, the truly Celtic words are more difficult for me to memorize than French words. I score much higher on progress quizzes in French than in Welsh. It seems I have a more intuitive feel for French and can answer questions I have not even studied. Not so much in Welsh.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KarenBledsoe

Welsh is less familiar and less intuitive to me, personally, than French or Spanish, the other two languages I've studied. I'm studying it more because I'm curious about it for several reasons, no the least of which is Welsh in my ancestry, but I'm not striving to be fluent.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KarenBledsoe

I also found it helpful to buy a blank book and take notes with each lesson. I jot down the main information on the page introducing each lesson on the website, then write down vocabulary words and example sentences as I go. I can page through my notebook and review lessons as needed.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/David838524
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My experience in learning several languages is that a tremendous aid is having great music to listen to. Maybe some languages are more musical than others, or maybe it's just a matter of opinion, but there's plenty of great Welsh language rock which was part of the nationalist movement in the 1960s and 1970s.

Music has certainly helped me with Portuguese, Spanish, French and Hungarian which is the main language I am concentrating on now (Either Hungary or Cambodia has the best rock and pop music that no one knows about, by the way) You can find videos on youtube with lyrics and sing along as you are learning and it helps with pronunciation as well.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chromalogue
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I find it marginally easier than Irish, but a lot harder than Icelandic, which everyone warned me was super hard but is a picnic compared to any of the Celtic languages I've seen so far.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MattRoberts0

I am slowly .first language English and live in South Wales but am surrounded by Welsh at work so am picking it up quicker than most I suppose

9 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jbarraclough128

I want to learn!

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rhelynn
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I'm learning Welsh (on my mobile account) and find it easier than either Spanish or French. I know that is a personal thing. I was very surprised, though.. because it was like suddenly I didn't have to 'work' hard for the words - they were there, and they 'echoed' in my ears unlike the Spanish or French which felt like picking through sticks to find the right one each time. The mutations are a bit difficult - but that would come with use like knowing how to spell homonyms in English you would just 'know' whether it was 'gath' or 'cath' with the other words. (learning Welsh for 7 months)

6 months ago
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