https://www.duolingo.com/DanyKreep

English for Arabic speakers added to the Incubator!

Keep up the good work, Duolingo! :)

January 29, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

I'd just like to point out that this thread was posted before we even had internal confirmation that the new language had been successfully added :)

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/DanyKreep

I check the Incubator whenever I can! :)

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nighteyes

Luis, what about Hebrew? (I'm also asking because I want to be part of it)

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/eyal.horow

Well, maybe I'm jumping to much ahead but arabic for hebrew speakers and vice versa would be a very intresting thing. Too bad we're the hebrew speakers are so few, but I'm sure there is a great demand to learn the language.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nighteyes

I would love Hebrew-Arabic. I'm very sad that I don't know Arabic especially because it's our second official language. I only know the Arabic alphabet and few words and phrases mainly from the years I studied it in junior high like "good morning teacher" and "today I went to school".

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/fer84

German-> Hebrew :)

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/eyal.horow

That I'm afraid will take some time... If I was the foreign minister or something I'd finance courses to learn hebrew from every common language but 'till then it will remain the secret of few :)

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen

Do you speak hebrew and arabic? I just looked at the incubator to find out if there is already an ar/he combination, but it's not. it would be like this one: http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/ar/he/status

On the other hand, you could apply for en/he course. the sooner there is something going on, the better :) http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/en/he/status

As a general tip, if you want to see ar/he coming to life, why don't you go ahead and tell people in relevant facebook groups, language forums, middle east peace websites etc. about the possibility? I think it's a terrific idea to have those courses!

February 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Selcen_Ozturk

have you already applied for it?

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nighteyes

yes, few months ago.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nateVONgreat

me too! אני רוצה לעזור! I applied to help, but got a response saying they are not ready to start doing it yet :(

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen

Really? Did they say "when" they would be ready?

February 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nateVONgreat

i think they said that when they get enough applicants to contribute to the course.

February 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen

damn. I was confused and had to delete my answer because I somehow thought this was about the Esperanto course. Beg your pardon! ^^

February 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/yeahbuddy82

I'm curious as to why languages aren't added as soon as possible to the incubator, I realize that you're starting with english for x language speakers first, but why not just add all those as soon as you have a solid contributor, instead of languages being added in intervals?

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Tbarqawi

Luis said that they carefully choose contributors, and they also need to keep things under control, so they add about 1 course per week.

-Tbarqawi

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

Yes. Additionally, in order to add Arabic we had to change our infrastructure to be able to handle right-to-left languages. Sounds easy, but it wasn't.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Nitram.

Arabic and Hebrew websites sometimes "mirror" the whole site horizontally, will this happen to Duolingo as well? Will the logo go to the right?

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

Hmm. That´s a nice little clue for the interface we might expect for Japanese. (For folks who might not know, Japanese has both a Left to Right (yokogaki), and a Right to Left (tategaki) writing structure. When writing directly across the page, right to left is used. When writing from the top of the page to the bottom Left to Right is used.

Left to Right: 始めました。名前はUsagiです。よろしくおねがいします!

Right to Left:
Alt text
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/arielk81

For what it's worth, I don't think I've ever seen a Japanese website run right to left, since the text is almost always horizontal.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ubernichts

It sounds very difficult. Why not do one of the easy ones first: Esperanto!?

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor

As much as I want an Esperanto course, I honestly don't think it makes sense for them to start it yet until they allow courses for English speakers. There will be very little demand for English for speakers of Esperanto, so for that tree I think it makes more sense to wait and then once they can make courses for English speakers go straight to making that course.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/squiggy.fl

Cost benefit. Learning japanese allows you more opportunities to use the language in everyday life. Esperanto has fewer speakers, and far fewer everyday applications. Japanese has a higher profit per hour of learning than Esperanto for many people.

Learning hebrew and arabic have similarly higher profits per study hour. Though honestly as both hebrew and arabic require fewer hours to maser reading than japanese, they may be higher profit than japanese for the effort.

January 31, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/chilvence

Hmph. Why does Esperanto get away with calling itself 'easy'. Logical or not, it's not easier than any other unfamiliar language, with the added drawback that it has no mainstream music, film or literature for people to enjoy or learn from, and that no one has any idea when and where they will be able to use it. Above all else, the insipid promise that it is a culturally neutral auxiliary language is just a thinly veiled affirmation that it is ok for people to want to resist learning foreign languages. "Just learn this new language that I made, and we can all stop calling each other names!"

Dr Z, if you were alive, I would tell you I am honestly happier studying Polish... at least I can find someone to talk to :P

February 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum

This is such an exciting time in Duolingo!

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Music4Ever15

So will it soon be Arabic for English speakers?

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/PaschalisD

someone is spying ;)

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Tbarqawi

So what does the Egypt flag represent here ? Will the course be teaching the Egyptian dialect, or is it there because of the amount of speakers in Egypt ?

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Veekhr

For anyone who's confused about whether they'll be learning Egyptian dialect or MSA, it may help to know that all Arabic dialects are essentially written down in MSA, but sometimes native speakers will speak in their own dialect out loud when reading sentences. It's called diglossia. Though a majority in Egypt speak Egyptian Arabic, it isn't recognized is the official language of Egypt, Modern Arabic is. There is also no official version of a written Egyptian dialect anywhere, although some Egyptians are trying to unify spelling. I'm certain that MSA will be taught for these reasons, though a few popular dialect words may be added. As for the flag issue, I don't think there is an MSA flag (though sometimes on websites I've seen a green flag with العربي written in) and the contributors had to choose one, so they probably just chose the Egyptian one because it represents them.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando

If its classical codified modern arabic that's about to happen the choice of flag should be the Saudi-arabic one, thou the origin of arabic is from that country, if its the modern arabic egyptian language then it should be the Egytian flag, but if so, you should not call it 'arabic' solely.

Which arabic language is it?

I hope maltesian would come around for short, as it is one of the offical languages of the European Union.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/StrapsOption

I have just got two Maltese people on my 'MALTESE PLEASE!' discussion to apply for the Maltese Incubator.

May 31, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/StrapsOption

Make that four now.

August 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniela0231

Oh yay!! Can't wait for the reverse course. So exciting!

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/DanyKreep

Me neither! It's one of the many languages I want to learn. :)

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum

I'm working on basic Russian. Arabic is next for me. There're too many languages! Ach!

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Music4Ever15

I can't wait!!

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

I'm soo excited!! Does anybody have any clue which dialect of Arabic they're incubating? There are several dialects of Arabic that are essentially their own languages.

Edit: Just found out that both contributors speak Egyptian Arabic. In which case, the course name should be changed from Arabic to Egyptian Arabic since the dialects are not mutually intelligible.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/e-nawar

I have no doubt that it will be MSA not dialects.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

Even still, I think a distinction should be made so people know what they're getting themselves into once the reverse course rolls around.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/e-nawar

Yes. But it also will be MSA. I don't expect dialects any time soon.

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nelwandi

They had... Look at the flag, It is Egyptian flag... just like Brazil flag on Portuguese...

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando

But it really should not be the egyptian flag that represent MSA, because then you might think its the highly respectable egyptian(kariotic) arabic language that is in the learning tree, when its not.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum

I just refreshed the page and saw this! Hurrah!

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/e-nawar

Awesome! Good luck Arabic Team!

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Mitchell_MT

FINALLY!!! Now all they need to add is is Swedish, and both of the reverse courses.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen

ha, I just was about to post the same! :P Huzzah! i'd like to try the reverse course!

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/JazminG

Very exciting -- Arabic is next on my list! And it will motivate me to work harder on Spanish, so that I have that "mastered" by the time Arabic comes around. Somehow I get the feeling I"ll be even slower climbing that tree...

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/vermist

I know, right? I'm trying to stay on track with French and German so my trees will be done by the time they launch Russian and Turkish for English-speakers.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/eyal.horow

Well it is amazing how you and I are in about the same situation. Do you want to race who will finish first? XD

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

الحمد لله Very glad to see this post. :) Do hope the امية is confined to a few lessons, and that the ج will be pronounced more like the French "je" than the hard "g." Have been working my way through Arabic textbooks to refresh my Arabic vocabulary. So the Duolingo course will be a welcome and wonderful complement.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nateVONgreat

I agree! i really cant stand when people dont understand the difference between a french "je" and a "g"!

February 2, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/KSmitch

I may try learning Arabic backwards then. I've always had an interest in studying the language. It's not like it would be easy either way. Has anyone ever tried learning a language like this? I'm sure it's not the best way, but I imagine at least the reading and writing part would be enhanced.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Oinophilos

It only makes sense to teach MSA. That is the only written language, and a lot of Duo is written. Besides, a big part of the purpose of these courses (I've done 3) is to teach reading and translation. I notice there is not so much of the conversational material that other courses have: how to order in a restaurant, go to the dry cleaners, buy a plane ticket, exchange greetings. And for sure, the modelers should be speakers who say J not G for jim.

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/mo3taz1705

i can't find it, can anyone send me the link

January 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ALiLoMiro

Good morning I am speak Arabic but I want learning speak English. thank you

February 2, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/nateVONgreat

well, as soon as the "Learn English from Arabic" gets out of the incubator or into the beta, you can do that!

February 2, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/richardlevay

Arabic for English speakers?!?!

February 2, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/StrapsOption

Indeed.

March 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Laureleaf

Yes please!!

November 5, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Oinophilos

Before we get to Maltese, shouldn't we have Swedish, Dutch, Russian, Greek?

January 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/StrapsOption

We shouldn't have anything before Maltese! Maltese is brilliant!

March 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a

Russian and Dutch already exist in beta in the form of English for the speakers of this languages. Which also means that the reverse trees are on their way.

January 30, 2014
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