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Mädchen

Does anybody know why Mädchen (girl in German) is not considered female?

June 17, 2016

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/doostrunk

The ending "-chen" is a diminutive for nouns to point a smaller or cuter version of something. It's the same with the ending "-lein", by the way. The words containing these endings are always neuter.

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wombatua

Grammatical gender has absolutely nothing to do with biological gender. It just is.

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monika-E

Nope, that is not right! Grammatical gender has everything to do with biological gender for people as much as for animals, not always for professions, though. Mädchen is the diminutive of Maid, die Maid, which is an old fashion word for Mädchen and which is not used in German for a girl. By adding - chen the article changes into das but every male living creature has the article "der" and every female living creature has the article "die". You might wonder why "das Kind" or "das Baby" is neuter, or why "der Säugling" has the male article, that's because they are superordinated word of a word family, "der Säugling" can be either "der Junge" or "das Mädchen".

June 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarcelFrey1

Mädchen is modern High German and comes from the early modern High German Mägdchen and Mägdchen comes from the middle High German Magd and Magd comes from the old High German Magad and Magad comes from the Germanic word Magaþi wich means virgin.

By the way the modern High German word Junge goes back to the Germanic word Knab wich was the name of a "spanking stick".

June 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jagnes.achacoso

Danke for telling me this. It is very helpful to my sister and I.

June 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/biertopf

... and therefore the grammatical genders are called 'masculine' and 'feminine' (and neuter), not 'male' and 'female'.

June 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Karopapi3r

I believe it's the diminutive of Maid (old German for woman). Diminutives are always neutral.

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MeleeNess23

Words ending in chen tend to be neutral, like das Eichhörnchen (the squirrel).

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/smilljas

In addition to what wombatua has just said: All words that end with -chen are neuter. It is a diminutive, that refers to "little" or "cute" persons or things.

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Waverley2720

Wow. Ok thanks

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ally.x
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it is so in some other languages too... I always understood it the way that it is a girl = kid... and kid is neuter too, since you don't care so much if it's a girl or a boy when it's a little kid... Also historically... boy would be considered more important... whereas der Junge.. while a girl was "just a kid" == neuter (I am a girl by the way and am not bothered by this :-)

June 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/biertopf

I don't think your interpretation is true - at least not for German. The reason why Mädchen is neuter is that it is a diminutive form (see other comments).

June 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ally.x
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What I meant more.. was how to help remember it :-) ... more than what is the ACTUAL reason... because nobony knows anymore anyway, we can only speculate about it

June 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/biertopf

But we do know: it's because it's a diminutive form!

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ally.x
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ok

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FranciscoA698613

This is because Das Mädchen is the diminutive form of Die Magd ("the maiden", in old german), and diminutive is always neuter. Nowadays the original form is no longer used, only the diminutive form ("the little maiden"). For obvious reasons I supose.

July 15, 2019
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