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Continuous in Dutch course

I want to report a problem in "Tips and Notes" of the "Continuous section". The last entry, number 6, states that another way to say "He is writing" is "Zijn" + infinitive, but the example given is "Hij is schrijven". If the example is correct, then it should be "zijn" + GERUND (not infinitive), or the example should be "Hij is te schrijven". Also, I would like to know which is correct.

2 years ago

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El2theK
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Schrijven is the infinitive, not te schrijven. It's Dutch, not English.

2 years ago

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I will refer only to what is written in the Tips and Notes on Continuous in Dutch (copied at the end for easy reference):

In 1 "schrijven" is called "gerund (verb used as a noun)" (which sounds about right since it requires an article "het")

(In 2 "schrijvende" is called present participle (irrelevant for this discussion))

In 3 "te schrijven" is called "infinitive"

In 4 "schrijven" is called "gerund"

In 5 "te schrijven" is called "full infinitive"

In 6 "schrijven" is called "infinitive"

  1. a form of zijn, followed by aan and then a gerund (verb used as a noun). ' Hij is aan het schrijven.
  2. a form of zijn with the present participle. Hij is schrijvende.
  3. a verb expressing a physical position followed by the infinitive. Hij zit te schrijven.
  4. a form of zijn, followed by bezig met and the gerund. Hij is bezig met schrijven.
  5. similar to the above, but instead of met followed by the gerund, you use the full infinitive starting with te. Hij is bezig te schrijven.
  6. a form of zijn followed by the infinitive. Hij is schrijven.

Continuous

In Dutch, the continuous is not as common as it is in English, but it's still fairly common. There are six ways of making a continuous:

  1. The most common way is to start with a form of zijn, followed by aan and then a gerund (verb used as a noun). 'He is writing' would become Hij is aan het schrijven.
  2. A dramatic, very uncommon way is to use a form of zijn with the present participle. So to dramatically say 'He is writing', you could say Hij is schrijvende.
  3. You can also use a verb expressing a physical position followed by the infinitive. This means that another way of saying 'He is writing', is Hij zit te schrijven. Now you have specified that he is sitting down while writing. If you want to say that he is standing while writing, you would say Hij staat te schrijven.
  4. Another uncommon method is using a form of zijn, followed by bezig met and the gerund. With 'He is writing', this creates Hij is bezig met schrijven. The more literal English translation of this sentence would be 'He is busy writing'.
  5. A very uncommon method is similar to the above, but instead of met followed by the gerund, you use the full infinitive starting with te. So, for 'He is writing' we now get Hij is bezig te schrijven.
  6. Finally we have a special form which means the subject is away to do the activity. It is made with a form of zijn followed by the infinitive. So if you want to imply that he has gone away to write, you can say Hij is schrijven.
2 years ago

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Also, in English there is a difference between "full infinitive" and "bare infinitive".

2 years ago

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That might be the case, in Dutch there isn't. The infinitive is schrijven.

http://en.bab.la/conjugation/dutch/schrijven

2 years ago

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You also should use 'aan het':

  • Hij is aan het schrijven = He is writing
2 years ago

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My comment pertains to the last item, see below:

Continuous

In Dutch, the continuous is not as common as it is in English, but it's still fairly common. There are six ways of making a continuous:

  1. The most common way is to start with a form of zijn, followed by aan and then a gerund (verb used as a noun). 'He is writing' would become Hij is aan het schrijven.
  2. A dramatic, very uncommon way is to use a form of zijn with the present participle. So to dramatically say 'He is writing', you could say Hij is schrijvende.
  3. You can also use a verb expressing a physical position followed by the infinitive. This means that another way of saying 'He is writing', is Hij zit te schrijven. Now you have specified that he is sitting down while writing. If you want to say that he is standing while writing, you would say Hij staat te schrijven.
  4. Another uncommon method is using a form of zijn, followed by bezig met and the gerund. With 'He is writing', this creates Hij is bezig met schrijven. The more literal English translation of this sentence would be 'He is busy writing'.
  5. A very uncommon method is similar to the above, but instead of met followed by the gerund, you use the full infinitive starting with te. So, for 'He is writing' we now get Hij is bezig te schrijven.
  6. Finally we have a special form which means the subject is away to do the activity. It is made with a form of zijn followed by the infinitive. So if you want to imply that he has gone away to write, you can say Hij is schrijven.
2 years ago