Plenty of languages have the continuous (it's an aspect, not a tense, though).
Rae.F, thanks for this. In my blinkered way, knowing only two languages (French and Russian) other than English, neither of which has a present continuous, I had assumed English was unique. Your wikipedia link tells me other languages have it too. But as far as I can see from this article, there's only Icelandic and Italian. I wouldn't call that "plenty". Do you know of many others?
Ah, my mistake. I was thinking of the present continuous. Looking back over our messages, I see that was only in my mind. It was in my mind because neither French nor Russian have it, even though they have aspects for other tenses. Apologies. ...Though, actually, given that the original question (Is Hebrew like German, as in, love comes is the same as love is coming?) was referring only to the present tense, I think I might be forgiven.
It is a common misconception that AAVE speakers simply replace is with be across all tenses, with no added meaning. In fact, AAVE speakers use be to mark a habitual grammatical aspect not explicitly distinguished in Standard English. For example, to be singing means to sing habitually, not to presently be singing. In one experiment, children were shown drawings of Elmo eating cookies while Cookie Monster looked on. Both black and white subjects agreed that Elmo is eating cookies, but the black children said that Cookie Monster be eating cookies.
It's called a present participle, not to be confused with a gerund. I know that it's in Russian, French, Spanish, Chinese. It's just that English uses it a whole lot more than those languages for some reason and, en lieu of that which, they gravitate to the indicative or infinitive.
I speak English, Spanish and some Italian and all of those have a continuous mood. I also assume Portuguese, French, Catalan, Latin and Esperanto all have it as well. However it does make the grammar a little easier for me in Hebrew that there is no continuous mood that I have to worry about. Just got to learn to those darn letters now...
it may have to do with the gender of the word since most Hebrew nouns ending in -ah are feminine (not all, but most). My Biblical Hebrew is rusty but there's also a rule concerning the fact that you can't end a word with an open syllable (a CV syllable). If it ends in a vowel, there's usually an -h or an aleph at the end
The "Aleph" letter is a "glottal stop". A glottal stop happens, for instance, in the "uh-oh" word, or in american pronounciation for "button". Your throat litteraly closes itself for a little moment. But I think it's not wrong if you just speak without the stop. Just put the emphasis on the second letter (baÁH)
Stop vs. fricative, not voiced vs. voiceless. So it's a matter of fortition vs. lenition.
You're thinking about it too hard. As @JackyDW wrote above, "It's just for getting introduced to the Hebrew alphabet. It doesn't have to make sense for you to learn it, and, in fact, it's probably better if it doesn't make sense, since it'll make it more memorable."
Try going here: https://www.memrise.com/course/1087087/hebrew-alef-bet-print/1/
It's by the creators of the Duolingo Hebrew course. There's also another course for all the words: https://www.memrise.com/course/1031737/hebrew-duolingo/
MariahLightfoot wrote: "do you read the whole thing left to right or just each word read seperately? (completely new to hebrew)"
This is another example of why this course starts too complex for beginners: why don't you explain this in the beginning?! That hebrew is read from right to left?
IN English, anyway, you could say "love is coming" in a general way to say "you/one will experience love in the near future" though it would sound rather poetic or metaphorical. In a much more specific Christian religious context we sometimes talk about "love has come" to refer to Christ's coming into the world. I don't think that latter context is what's being referred to here, though. :)
the answer will depend on what sort of keyboard you have. Try googling "Hebrew keyboard" + Mac | Windows | Android | iPhone as appropriate.
I don't understand how I'm supposed to learn this language... am I missing something? The letters are different, so I need an explanation of the letters first. This first lesson is too advanced for me to learn anything--is there an explanation of the alphabet somewhere? Thanks for your help!
Did you try clicking on the light bulb icon?
May depend on your browser or other factors. On the email I received notifying me of the new comment on this post, it is on the right. On the top of this page, it is on the left. The letters are still in the same order, so it's not like one is reading the RTL setting correctly and the other isn't, but I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
It should be on the left, as Hebrew reads right-to-left. If it's not, you may wish to report it. The mechanism for this will depend on which interface you're using, but may look like a 'flag' button next to or near the button to access the forum....
It seems that one should not be penalized for writing the translations in English for a phrase in Hebrew such as "Love come(s)", which I assume is the correct Hebrew form. Asking users to use precise English grammar--"Love is coming"-- is no way to teach proper Hebrew grammar.
Rae, speaking about reading right to left, I've been gone from Duolingo for a year and when I came back last week, I noticed that all the new, blue, Hebrew sentences at the top of the discussion pages are written backwards. Do you have any idea why this error happened, how long the problem has been going on, and why it hasn't been fixed yet? Thanks.
update 8/2019: It took months but the problem has been fixed and the words I see in the answers in blue at the top of the discussion pages are now going in the correct direction from right to left instead of left to right. Thanks Duo!
I asked you because you are frequent and knowledgeable contributor who has been on the site more recently than I have. I thought you might have been following a discussion or heard some other way about this issue. The Hebrew in blue at the top of this page reads "באה אהבה" instead of "אהבה באה" on my computer. I turned in a bug report a couple of days ago but, since Duolingo does not respond back to individual bug reports, I was hoping someone else had an idea what is causing the problem and if it can be fixed.
There is no audio when selecting the words to compare with the original recording that we are supposed to try to write in Hebrew. This seems too difficult when there is no beginning alphabet to try to discern the letters, no audio to compare each word to the original phrase, and none of the words have been strongly taught in a previous lesson. Please fix to make it more fair to the learner. It is frustrating and discouraging to have to guess entire words and phrases over and over without having learned individual words or letters from the phrases. This is only one of the first lessons in the very first skill tree, yet we are supposed to understand an entire sentence orally and select the corresponding words visually with zero audial context.
Yes, it is a downside of this course. Your best bets are to learn the letters and then the words covered by Duolingo via the associated Memrise courses: https://www.memrise.com/course/1087087/hebrew-alef-bet-print/ https://www.memrise.com/course/1031737/hebrew-duolingo/
Also make sure you check the tips and hints pages for each skill.
And be aware that the comments pages are not monitored by the Devs so if you want to bring something to their attention, you need to flag it.
No, it doesn't for the Hebrew course because of the way that they recorded the audio. The audio is of people reading whole sentences rather than individual words that can be spliced together.
If you want to hear how an individual word is pronounced, try forvo.com or the memrise course that matches the Duolingo Hebrew course - try starting here: https://www.memrise.com/course/1031737/hebrew-duolingo/1/
Rae.F, though there may be plenty of places online for learning the Hebrew alphabet, I'd like to say that the Duolingo introduction to - I mean the first lessons in - Arabic are a dream. You learn the alphabet without even noticing that you are. Totally painless. Congratulations Duolingo! What a shame you haven't done it for Hebrew.
It's very easy to shame things you don't know enough about. Did you know Hebrew was made as the first non-alphabet language course on Duolingo? That was done years before Arabic, which was made on the new platform, which was made after they realized Hebrew was not user friendly, in order to support other such languages. The course creators have states several times already that transferring the Hebrew course onto the new platform would require an entirely new tree, not just a small upgrade. And a new tree takes a lot of effort and time, because they are all volunteers.
In the tips, it says, "A common example for the use of "א" as a silent letter is the word לא (/lo/), which means "no"." I don't understand why it's called "silent" when it seems to represent "o"???
Follow that double asterisk back up to the notes on aleph:
(usually silent or similar to the letter "a" in English: a placeholder for vowels)
This is not really an alphabet. It's an abjad (albeit an "impure" one), just like Arabic. The aleph/alif can hold the short vowel points (niqqud), written or not.
Lovely! The REPLY function has reappeared. Thank you veyr much for this interesting link, which I'll read tomorrow (it's past 1am in London). (I'm proud to say I knew about abjad, becasue of learning Arabic - so why do they call it the Hebrew alphabet?) I still think that this statement - "A common example for the use of "א" as a silent letter is the word לא (/lo/)" is not helpful. Good night!
Yes, Duolingo cuts off replies after a certain depth, which is why I replied to your highest-level comment.
Abjads and abugidas are subtypes of the general category "alphabet". That and not a whole lot of people know those words, so it's easier to just over-simplify and call them alphabets.
And yeah, perhaps they could re-word that a bit. What they mean is that א holds the "o" vowel. If you scroll down the Omniglot link a little bit, there's a section where it talks about niqqud and shows the diacritics.
Rae.F, yes, I hadn't replied to your other post, but there wasn't any point. I always look at Tips, but my point was that in the Arabic course, the course creators make it very easy for you. Here, it's quite hard and boring to go through the alphabet and teach yourself the letters without any help. Incidentally, I see that the Hebrew course has the same irritating feature of the Arabic one (and probably all of them), that at a certain point, the REPLY function disappears, ,and you have to find a different message to reply to. However, Duolingo is very good at alerting the addressee of a new reply, even if it doesn't follow immediately after the addressee's message. I don't suppose you know any app that babies you along to learn the Hebrew alphabet?
You seem to be addressing the course contributors. You'll have a much better chance of catching someone's attention if you post this to the main forum instead of burying it in a sentence discussion.
That said, you can read the lesson tips and notes here, where the Hebrew alphabet is introduced:
in hebrew we have also words that are male and female for example "שולחן" (table) is a male word so you would say שולחן בא ('table is coming', if that makes sense) But a word like אהבה is a female word so you'd say אהבה באה. there are tons of words in hebrew and you have to learn which words are male and which words are female to know if to say בא or באה.
Same thing and even easier with people. When its a woman coming youd say אישה (woman) באה (a woman is coming)
And when its a man you'd say איש בא (man is coming)
Its with other words to. For example, יפה (pretty)
a man is יפה (yafe) a woman is יפה (yafa)
Colors also. For example, red. (אדום adom)
the table (a male word) is אדום the box (קופסא, a female word) is אדומה
Bull! You can learn an alphabet by much more valuable means, such as an alphabet song, or diagrams, or even words that start with each of the letters, instead of having to memorize sentences or phrases that you will almost with certainty never use in an actual conversation. "Love is coming" teaches me nothing, except how to waste everyone's precious time with empty, scripted mismatch of words.
I presume Quinny2006 is replying to the first comment of the discussion, by EpicPowerHero. There seems to be some app for accessing Duolingo which only allows the user to see the first comment on a sentence, and not any subsequent replies or comments. It seems to lead to a lot of misunderstandings!
I'm not sure whether it is possible for them to make a reply, as such. But since they cannot see any replies themselves, they are completely unaware of the true structure of a page like this. They see the sentence, and a comment asking a question about it - so they reply by commenting themselves. I have seen one person specifically comment that they cannot make replies (in explaining why they would not be able to respond to anyone who replied to their own, top-level, comment), so I think that it may be so.
For myself, when I access Duolingo via the Windows phone app, I have access to neither the discussion boards nor the "Notes and Tips"! (needless to say, I am currently on a computer...)
Yep. If you realise that you are getting a cutdown version, you can access Duolingo via the browser, which gives a bit more functionality. But the worst of it is, there is no indication that you are not getting the full facility - I suspect that a lot of the angry, frustrated comments on Hebrew come from app users with no idea that the Tips and Notes exist!
Well, I support sharia laws and Muslim independence in those European towns with Muslim majority (several are on the way), but what does my political opinion, or yours, has to do with a language learning. I think we all better keep our political opinions to political oriented forums.