https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW

Reading and writing vowels?

I see that, in the Tips & Notes, the examples in Hebrew are written without vowels. I also know that the Hebrew script is a consonant-only abjad. Am I supposed to remember what the vowels and their positions are?

June 21, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/quadrin

Yeah, sort of. There are things called niqqud, which can help you read what sound the letters make. Niqqud is to help beginner learners understand the sounds that the words make.

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW

So, basically, fluent speakers of Hebrew memorize what vowels go where?

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/nirc2

it is not that complicated, really. and the i, o and u vowels usually get י and ו , too.

this would be like writing your sentence this way: So, bsiclly, fluent speakrs of Hbrw mmorize wht vwls go whr?

once you get the hang of the language, you see it is'nt that difficult to read with half of the vowels missing

June 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

Excellent example LOL :D

June 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW

I'm okay with that because I read constructed abjads all the time.

June 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/quadrin

Yep.

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando

As we are supposed to be beginners, niqqud should be included, for at least the first half of the course.

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/quadrin

I know, but one of the developers says it wouldn't be good for some reason...

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

No, because niqqud are not used in everyday writing, it's much better not to get used to relying on them, and to learn how to read and write Hebrew without them. Otherwise you will just have to kind of relearn everything without reliance on them later - it's way better to learn without from the start.

June 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/DragonPolyglot

In Hebrew, traditionally the vowels are not written but speakers understand what vowel goes where. There is also a variation of written Hebrew that includes vowels as marks to help beginners and children read without struggling as much. All languages that use abjads (Hebrew, Yiddish, Arabic, Urdu, Persian, ect) work this way. If you're struggling with this, you can make notes that include the vowels in the words. That helps me with Arabic.

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW

Jeez, this is going to be like Russian or Ukrainian, where you have to remember where the stress goes.

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/leHibouDeLaMer

basically, yes, only with Niqqud you can really tell (but you would rarely find Hebrew with Niqqud). however, Hebrew is not a pure abjad: there are 4 letters: א ה ו י that may serve as vowels (but sometimes also as consonants, and often can be omitted). still, it should give you some indication for pronunciation. confused? well, hmmm... eventually Hebrew is very "pattern" oriented, and you can develop some good "intuition" pretty quickly

June 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW

Whatever. With enough commitment and effort, I'll learn it soon enough.

June 21, 2016
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