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I absolutely HATE And DETEST the insistence of NO vowel points! If children learning Hebrew can get the vowel points, then so should we! I am sick, and tired of being treated like I should already know how to pronounce and read vowelless Hebrew and understand one word from another! I do not! I do NOT hear very well. I am not deaf. I am at a loss and I think I should do the right thing and kick Hebrew to the curb! It would be nice if we at least could have the option to SEE the vowels!
The problem is that 100% of ALL Modern Hebrew language learning sites outside of Israel INSIST that NO JEW learns Hebrew with vowel points before getting them without vowel points! They insist that "adults don't get vowel points so get used to it", completely ignoring the fact (I asked so I know this is fact!) that 100% of ALL Jews in Israel learn their own language WITH vowel points! This is why I vehemently hate all Hebrew language learning sites as they are all stupid in the head! I will go to Israel and learn Hebrew so that I can GET the vowel points so I know how the word is pronounced before I learn it without vowel points!
Velvelajade, people who speak the Hebrew language do not use vowels—they are only used as a method of teaching young children what sounds words make, and then, by the second grade, no more vowels. It is good to learn to read vowel-less hebrew because people who speak the language and read it do not use them.
"If children learning Hebrew can get the vowel points, then so should we!" Doh! ;) It is a learning tool for those learning Hebrew so that they can learn it. That is why we SHOULD have it, and be able to go through the course with the vowel points and without it as an option! And they do put in the vowel points on new words for children older than 8! By the age of 12, they learn how to read the entire Torah without vowel points. That does not mean that adults who are learning language, should be forced to not have vowel points because well, it isn't there anyway in normal writing, so we don't care. Even Japanese will put in kana as pronunciation-meaning aids for the Kanji!
Besides, your argument does not even care about the hearing impaired, and tells us we should just be discriminated against because we can not be bothered to accommodate because Adult deaf who were born and raised on Hebrew do not get any aids as adults, so you shouldn't either, is just silly! We are beginners and should get the same aids as other beginners get!
And I am very tired of people telling the hearing impaired to go away. I don't know how else to say this. I think that reasonable accommodation CAN and SHOULD be had! When we don't care about the disabled, then we stop being a united front for all people. Instead, we become a united front for only the "privledged people without disabilities".
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I do the notes etc and look stuff up to answer these questions...but the word FOOD was not in the tips (and online I was not given the spelling needed for this exercise) and the verb eat/noun food was not in the tips...and I struggle with the pronunciations...so it was a miss for me...