https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo

A vision for more interesting Esperanto meetings

amuzulo
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I just found this article I wrote back in 2011, which as the community grows with Duolingo I think will become more and more relevant:

A vision for more interesting Esperanto meetings

What do you think?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/ionasky
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I agree, we need events for interests other than languages. But to do that we need collected vocabularies that meet the needs of those interests, without everyone having to go off by themselves and look up each word in the dictionary ( vikipedia helps but the entries can be quite sparce for some interests) I intend to start collecting the essential vocabularies for my personal interests into mini starter packs and put them into PDFs which I can then review , a bit like the individual Duo skills clusters but more concentrated, I will be quite willing to share...if i can find a good place to put them, ( pinterest maybe) if they are of interest to anyone else.

I'll be starting with chess, crochet, choral singing and creative writing..( maybe i have a thing about hobbies beginning with c) . If anyone feels like joining in ???

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jal
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Well they don't begin with c in Esperanto, so there is some diversity. All good ideas, and perhaps you could offer some of these as future skills in the Duolingo course.

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vanege
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I am waiting the moment when Smash Bros Europe tournaments will be held in Esperanto so the Europe Scene can grow. The view count in Twitch (~200) is so small compared to the tournaments in the United States (~3 000). I think the problem is English. People don't watch because they can not understand English. The Smash scene is smaller in countries that are worse in English (France, Spain, Italy). Countries that are better in English (Germany, Sweden, Great Britain) have more players.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GrandaUrso

Hah! That's a FANTASTIC idea! More than just Smash! Let's have some Mortal Kombat tournaments too, more video games! Esperanto shoutcasters on twitch? Yes!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WahahaDrills
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Imagine a TF2 team that communicates in Esperanto.

Oh boy.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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What do I think? Let's imagine that the number of Esperanto speakers in the US doubles and that the willingness of people to participate in events remains proportional to what it is now. Let us further assume that by having more interesting events, more often, with more people, closer to where people live, that this doubling leads to a trippling of participation in Esperanto events.

Having interest-specific events is certainly an attractive idea, but the more important question is "how can we make it happen." If we tripple participation in US Esperanto events, where are we going to get the numbers to say "anybody not interested in motorcycle repair, stay away"? Trippling the numbers in my region would mean something on the order of monthly meetings with 5 or 10 people, regular meetings in neighboring cities, and an annual event or two with 50-100 people.

Predictions are hard to make, especially about the future, but doubling the people and trippling the participation seems like a reasonable thing to imagine.

I don't think we should be ashamed of having meetings that cater to our common interest - Esperanto. The national languages do the same thing. You don't see meetups in Rochester for French-speaking jugglers or German-speaking gamers.

To be clear, I am fully in favor of having interesting sessions at Esperanto events that have sessions. ARE has long been taking the lead in this area (have I mentioned ARE? If not, see here https://www.duolingo.com/comment/16228630). We have dance workshops, lectures on travel and cultural phenomina, geometry and cryptography, poetry-writing workshops, canuing, shuffleboard, hikes up a mountan, board games, wine, choral singing, and (as I recall) even knitting (baby caps for premies). Not all of these are interesting for all people, but that's OK.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo
amuzulo
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I totally get you and it seems obvious that the first place that would have a concentration of Eo speakers large enough would be in Europe. I mean, Berlin is a microcosm of this with its 7 (!!) Esperanto clubs. You do mention another interesting point though. Sometimes I think of going to an Esperanto event sort of as experiencing "culture shuffle", a random stream of interesting stuff coming my way... also sometimes out of my comfort zone to make me grow as a person.

Anyway, you make a good point that North America still has a ways to go until it could reach such a critical mass. Perhaps by 2025 then? If the Duolingo for English course continues to grow at the same pace, then we'll have 4 million learners by then (1.6 million in the USA)! And in the long scheme of things, 2025 isn't too far off...

Of course, this also isn't taking into account what impact the Esperanto course for Spanish speakers could have on the US Esperanto community. As of now, the USA is the 2nd largest Spanish-speaking country in the world (between Mexico and Spain)! If Hispanic Americans suddenly start learning Esperanto en masse, American Esperanto events could suddenly become a lot more interesting with the additional cultural diversity they would bring.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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That is an excellent point about the Esperanto for Spanish Speakers course and I'm really looking forward to the kind of effect that might have here!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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Thanks to Duolingo we're going to have 100 people at ARE this fall.

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/16228630

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo
amuzulo
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How many do you usually have?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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30-68. Last year was fairly well-attended (close to 50, although I don't recall whether we got a final count (there were several last minute additions and substractions.) Numbers were down two or three years ago or more but have been climbing the last few years.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo
amuzulo
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Unbelieveable! Be sure to tell them all Hi from me... I'm really curious how that will change the meeting dynamics, but I imagine it will be very positive, enjoy the fresh energy! :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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We had two "duolingo newbies" last year. We're shooting for 52 this year.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sevenseacat
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In the #esperanto IRC channel, I've noticed a lot of software developers congregating - I would attend a tech conference in Esperanto :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo
amuzulo
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That's actually an interesting idea! Hmm, tech in general, that's quite a broad topic. I wonder what one would do there.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sevenseacat
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Talks on related topics like internationalization maybe :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnReid8
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One idea that this sparked off for me is having something like an informal roving meet-up that meets in a different location in a pre-set area every week or so, (week 1 - site A, week 2 -site B etc).

Let's say 3-5 Esperanto speakers "bump into each other" in a public place and start talking with each other, using Esperanto as there default language, and allow others to either join the conversation or simply ask some relevant questions that will elicit some good answers. (Ideally, this seed group would of course move around from place to place to.)

As a means to propagate Esperanto, this might work better where there's already a lot of Esperanto speakers (relatively speaking mind), but I think that this would help to improve confidence in speaking the language.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnReid8
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Actually, the thought just occurred to me that we should ask Spanish speakers what would make them more likely to learn Esperanto and/or recommend the language to a friend. (And not just Spanish speakers of course.)

I imagine that the resulting dialogue will help us to work out what's of common interest all over the globe, we really need that list to be longer than porn and BDSM don't we.

Speaking of BDSM, I'm sure that somebody will like the sound of "bodosomejo", (see if you can guess how I formed that word :P ).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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I'd been asked to organize an Esperanto horseriding event. I toss that idea around from time to time. Will its day ever come?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GrandaUrso

I don't know man, horses are frightening creatures. If they don't like you they let you know it and with one good kick you won't bother them anymore.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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Active learning.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo
amuzulo
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That sounds cool, although I've never ridden a horse. I'd attend if I were nearby if beginner horseback riders were allowed. :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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The FB group for ARE 2018 is up.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1935923370066866/

3 months ago
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