"Tu manques à tes enfants."

Translation:Your children miss you.

January 30, 2013

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I think this is a really nice way of saying you miss someone. I miss you is translated as "Tu me manques." In other words, "You are missing from me", the person you are talking to is a part of you and he/she is missing from you. :*)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daveremy

There is a good explanation of manques à on this about page: http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/manquer.htm

"Manquer + à means "to miss a person, place, or thing,"* as in to feel the lack of it:

David manque à moi. > David me manque. I miss David.

Tu manques à moi. > Tu me manques. I miss you.

*This is the confusing construction, because it means that in French, the person missed is the subject of the sentence, whereas in English, the person missed is the object. The French construction literally says "A is missing to Z," where in English we say "Z misses A." If you can remember to think about the literal meaning of the French construction, you should be all right.

More examples on http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/manquer.htm


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pabrown1975

This really helped! The reversed subject/object is confusing. So, to be clear...

"Tu manques à moi" => "I miss you" ("you are missing to me") "Tu manques moi" => "You miss me" ("you are missing me")

Is the second form acceptable? Just a couple of questions ago, I got the sentence:

"Tu manques un bon repas" => "You are missing a good meal"

So I assume the "à" makes all the difference... ?


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"Tu manques moi" is incorrect. It should be "Tu me manques", and it has here a same meaning as "Tu manques à moi". "à moi" is actually the same thing here as indirect object pronoun "me", but it's just that when you have a preposition "à", after it (or any other preposition) you must put a stressed pronoun (here "moi") instead of indirect (or direct) object pronoun (here "me").

"Je manque à toi" = "Je te manque" = "I am missing to you" = "You miss me".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stephanie.P.

That's not right. Try this:

Tu manques à moi / Tu me manque = I miss you (You are missing to me).
Je manque à toi / Je te manque = You miss me (I am missing to you)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alejandrinho89

I am confused, so according to your explanation, tu manques un bon repas would mean a good meal is missing you?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n6zs

No. The verb manquer is used in several ways and has somewhat different meanings. One is the conventional meaning of "to miss" something, e.g., to miss the bus (manquer le bus). Another is "to be missing (absent/away)", "to be missing (lacking)" something. In the latter sense, manquer is used with à (i.e., manquer à), e.g., "Tu manques à tes enfants". When used with de, it takes on more directly the idea of "to lack / to be short of", e.g., "Ta soupe manque de sel" (Your soup lacks salt). With or without the optional "de", it can indicate that something was about to happen (or nearly happened), e.g., J'ai manqué (de) mourir (I nearly died). There is no doubt that "manquer" is a tricky one. Look at daveremy's link above and also this one:


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ashka360

You said that "to be missing (lacking)" something takes the form of manquer à. Why do you not use à in "tu me manque"? Is it an exception?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n6zs

It is not an exception. As has already been noted (above), when the object of the verb "to be missing" is placed before the verb, the "à" is dropped so it is an alternate form of saying the same thing: "Tu manques à moi" = "Tu me manques" = (literally) "You are missing to me" (or, in better English), "I miss you".


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I'm not 100% sure but i think to say "A good meal is missing you" would be "Tu manques à un bon repas". Just the same way the example indicated the children as the subject by "à tes enfants". In this scenario the 'à' seems to take on a similar meaning to 'by' in English... "You are missed by a good meal" or "You are missed by your children"


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I don't know why this was down-voted. Unless I've misread something, then this is absolutely correct, and I find comparing things to English to be quite helpful personally.


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Merci beaucoup.


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think you you so much !des annees à chercher la difference☺☻!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrediVallina

¿What makes it different from "You miss your children."? Thanks in advance


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arjofocolovi

"You miss your children." would be translated as : "Tes enfants te manquent"

Another translation for the original sentence ("Tu manques à tes enfants") would be : "Your children miss you"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tonkoch

If it is generally backwards, then why does 'you are missing a good dinner' translate 'tu manques un bon repas'? How do these rules work?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yuujen

Because that's manquer rather than manquer à. In that context, it means something more like lack than emotionally missing someone.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/neverfox

Who said it was generally inverted? The inversion happens only with a specific meaning of "miss", and that's the meaning in phrases like "I miss you." There's no inversion in the meaning of miss in "You are missing a good meal." That is saying that there's a good meal happening and I'm not participating. The former is saying that I feel your absence, and the space created by it, regrettably.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrediVallina

Ok!, thank you very much, now I understand that it works exactly the opposite as I thought. I presume there is no one-word verb equivalent in english (neither, I think, in my mother tongue: spanish)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nekosuki

Yes there is an equivalent in Spanish: «Me haces falta» (for "Tu me manques" / "I miss you"). It's quite easy to understand the French expression if you think of it this way, rather than thinking in English and having to reverse the subject with the object.

Thus, the Spanish and English equivalents of the phrase «Tu manques à tes enfants» would be, respectively: «(Tú) le haces falta a tus hijos» and «Your children miss you». The subject of the French and Spanish phrases is 'you', while in the English sentence it is 'your children'. Vice versa for the object.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrediVallina

Great! thanks! that helps me a lot translating these sentences in french, and also with italian that has almost the same word "mancare", and it is used that exact meaning "hacer falta" (example: "le manca la personalità", Duolingo translates it as "She does not have a personality"). However, i miss a one-word equivalence in spanish.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BOBAgfull

If this helps, "Tu manques à tes enfants.", mean you are missing to your children.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kread18

is that why you use the preposition "a" instead of "par"? I was thinking of it in terms of "you are missed BY your children" = "tu manques par tes enfants" but I think it's just idiomatic.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RKSMT

How do you know the pronunciation of, Tu manques a tes enfants, is not, Tu manques a te enfant? What tells you its, tes enfants?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arjofocolovi

"Tu manques à te enfant" is not correct French.

The correct way for the singular version of "Tu manques à tes enfants" is : "Tu manques à ton enfant."

The end of "ton" is pronounced like "vont", "mon", "long", etc...

The end of "tes" is pronounced like "lait", "mes", "mais", etc...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DuFarge

Never saw this word before. Duolingo said it can mean 'are missed by or spoil'. So I translated this as 'you spoil your children' and got it incorrect. Anyone explain?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arjofocolovi

I'm not sure why Duolingo would want to translate the verb "manquer" with "spoil", it doesn't make sense to me.

"manquer" can most of the time be translated as "to miss" (for pretty much all meanings).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/northernguy

I think Duo wants to suggest that manquer can carry intensity.

Putting heavy emphasis on missed in I missed the bus doesn't mean you missed it more completely than if you had not put emphasis on missed. It more likely would be taken to mean things were ruined, as in I missed the bus (which was the last one to take me back to the cruise ship which will now leave with all my belongings but with me stranded in a foreign country.)

In English, the appropriate tone can be used to mean to miss has consequences. It seems Duo is suggesting that is true in French as well.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n6zs

True that manquer can be "to spoil" but in the context of "to make a mess of" or "to botch" something. Tu as manqué ta vocation = You have missed your vocation. Duo's drop-down hints include a lot of possible uses, but not all of them are necessarily relevant to the sentence presented. http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french-english/manquer/49143


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lckislin

I think because this sentence uses "manquer A". The hints are different for manquer with and without the preposition.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ArkanGaulson

The way think about this verb is that it means "to give a sense of longing" - That way you don't have to do any mental gymnastics in your head to make it make sense in English.

Tu me manques = You give me a sense of longing = I miss you.

Tu manques a tes enfants = You give a sense of longing to your children = Your children miss you.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BrianWalke595729

Surely it reads "you are missing your children"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Wallrex

You are missed by your children. Is this also an acceptable translation?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tonymz27

"Your kids miss you" was marked wrong


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter724589

Shouldn't it be 'tu tes enfants manques'? Or are both correct?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/the_world_as_one

It's like You're missed by your children. Salut!

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