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Which preterite do YOU use?

S'mae,

So... I am just getting my head around the fact that there are three different ways of forming the preterite tense in spoken Welsh, and I've heard that each one is region specific.

As far as I can discern, they are:

1.) The 'endings' way: -es i, -est ti, etc.

2.) Using 'gwneud' as an auxiliary: nes i <>, nest ti <>.

3.) Using 'Ddaru' as an auxiliary (ie. no variations): Ddaru mi <>, ddaru ti <>, ddaru o/hi <>, etc.

So - my question to you is, which do you use in your particular region of Wales?

Diolch yn fawr!

June 28, 2016

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ddaru seems to be more of a north-west Wales variant. The other two are more widely used with minor variations.

Duo does not cover the use of ddaru. Overall, there are too many detailed dialect variations to cope with in a course such as this, so only those few which frequently crop up in, say, the news media, are included.

To answer your question, though, in south-east Wales both the short-form past and the use of gwneud seem common. Then again, Welsh speakers here come from all over Wales!

June 28, 2016

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There are three variations of the form using endings:-

Non-mutated form, found more usually in written Welsh but also becoming common in spoken Welsh in South Wales

Cysgais i neithiwr

Mutated form beginning with 'fe' for positive, used to be common in South Wales, now less so

Fe gysgais i neithiwr

Mutated form beginning with 'mi' for positive, fairly common in North Wales as an alternative to using the auxilliary verbs

Mi gysgais i neithiwr

If you want a larger response I'd suggest you post this to the group 'Iaith' on Facebook where there is continuous discussion about regional variations in Welsh.

June 29, 2016
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