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"Il a même plus de pommes."

January 30, 2013

11 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/whirim

I do not understad when to use "de" and "des" Why it is not "Il y a même plus des pommes"?

January 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jaimepapier

"plus des pommes" would mean "more of the apples" (i.e. rather to specific apples, as opposed to just "some" apples)

April 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/shriramk

There seem to be several instances of the same question: why "de" instead of "des" (or "du"). Here's what I think is going on.

First, the sound. It sounds like "de pomme" rather than "du pomme". Since pomme is fem., that suggests silent s's. Hence, it should be "des pommes".

However, there are rules for when the "des" becomes a "de". The most common one is when there's an adjective in-between "des bons pommes" would become "de bons pommes". That isn't the case here. BUT: as this page indicates,

http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/de-vs-du-de-la-des_3.htm

when the noun is unspecific, it's "de" and not "des". See the examples in the two columns.

April 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/docsimsim

It sounded like 'de pomme', not plural 'pommes'. i can't tell the difference

March 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/AngelicDestroyer

I think that since you wouldn't say "He has even more apple", likewise you wouldn't use "il a même plus de pomme." Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone?

March 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/docsimsim

Yes that makes sense now, though still not sure why 'de' and not 'des'. Also as 'pomme' is female why 'de' and not 'du'?!

March 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/AngelicDestroyer

I'm not sure about the 'de' vs 'des' either :) but 'du' is for masculine nouns. Female nouns are 'de' or 'de la'.

March 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/shriramk

See my comment below (new thread).

April 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/docsimsim

As 'pommes' are feminine, so why not 'du' rather than 'de'???

March 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/shriramk

See comment below (new thread).

April 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Muzorewi1984

I thought "plus" was never used to mean "still more"? Shouldn't this be "il a encore de pommes"?

March 6, 2013
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