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If you just say "megálló," does that imply bus stop? In the book I use it specified between villamosmegálló and buszmegálló.
no, it does not. it can be any place where a public transport thing stops. bus, tram, trolleybus, metro. (however, trains have "állomás")
Trains also have "megállóhely". At least the ones that stop "minden állomáson és megállóhelyen". :)
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You are right. Railwaymen use the following definition: if the place where the train calls at has traffic personnel, it is called a station ("állomás") otherwise a stop ("megállóhely").
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Even metro stop is more often "metróállomás" or "állomás", though "megálló" is not wrong at all.
this must be a social/regional/age-related/whatever difference, because I almost never hear "metróállomás" and sounds weird to my ears :D
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Yepp, in this case it maybe the whatever ;) I cannot specify it because I use and hear "metróállomás" significantly more often, therefore I don't know who use the "metrómegálló" form. But both are correct and this is highly probably that you're right with that reason. It's a strange thing, even funny :D I say let's accept both (and let poor newbies desperately memorize those five-syllable words... Take my sympathy, good fellows :D )
On the trams they always say metróállomás - like "Szent Gellért tér - metróállomás következik" :)
I think the main question here is: does English use "stop" on its own (without "bus", "tram", whatever) to refer to a designated stopping place of a public transport vehicle? Because Hungarian does. "Megálló" is literally "(a) stopping (place)", and is frequently used without any qualifier. As in "where is the stop?", "I'll wait for you at the stop", "two stops from here", etc.
I think the default usage (without a qualifier) is for a surface transportation line (bus, tram, trolley bus) simply because those are the most numerous. But it can certainly refer to a few other modes of transportation, as well.
yes, van translates to roughly "is there", or "there is", so without it the sentence would be 'the (bus) stop not here, but there', or something like that. Good question!
