Write to me in this discussion if you have any question /Native hungarian speaker
I thought that I open a topic for everyone who have any questions about the hungarian course and the language(example sentences, mistakes found). I am not a moderator or anyone who can repair the mistakes, but (maybe) I can explain the things for you. In the future I also try to help you in every "sentence discussion", but here is the place, where I am often available.
I thank you for your response :-)
What's the difference between long and short vowels? Because they have the same length for me, specially in fast speech
In hungarian the vowels can change the meaning of the words. For example here is two hungarian word: "keres" (search) and "kérés" (request). As you can see there is a big difference between the meaning of the two words. The first "keres" is used for example in this sentence: Ő keres valamit. (He is searching for something.) And the second is used in this example: Neki van egy kérése.(He has a request). If you interested in words pronunciation (I think so) then here it is: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/16452822 If one of the letters pronunciation is difficult after read the link above, I will try to help. :-) EDIT: Sorry, if is not that what you wanted to know, but in Hungary, it's midnight and I am a little tired. :)
is the stress always on the first syllable or can it be on different syllables too?
Except for some very exceptional cases, the stress is always on the first syllable. Like in Slovakian, if I know right. :-)
well I know how everybody teaches you that Czech/Slovak have the stress always on the first syllable, but if you listen to those languages you'll notice that many words are actually stressed on other syllables
with Hungarian (what I've heard so far) it has sounded "correct" so the words are actually stressed on the first syllable, but for example folyó sounds like it's stressed on the ó (tho I checked on other sources and it is stressed on the first syllable there so maybe it's just an error here), also "ügyvéd" sounds like it's stressed on the é?
there are 2 pronunciations in that link, the first one stresses the é and the second one stresses the ü
Yes, it is hard nut to crack, the Hungarian is really difficult to pronounce well, everyone needs to practice a lot. I agree with krissz44g below, this is a complex subject. But do not worry, lot of Hungarians do not know it exactly, they speak by instinct, not by the rules :)
In hungarian the word pronunciation has many components. Volume surplus(emphasis), tone pitch surplus. So for example if you say the word "Szombaton"(on Saturday) then the emphasis and the tone pitch surplus are both on the first syllable. I. e. you press the "Sz", and your voice is higher on "Szom-" too. But if you are ask "Szombaton?" then the emphrasis is also on the "Sz", but your voice is higher in the syllable "-ba-". However, within a sentence, you do not need to emphasize all of the words, only the important/relevant ones. Which contains a new information. So it is a really difficult question. But don't worry, for example if you take a look into hungarian TV news, you will see that we also make "mistakes". Please forgive me, if I could not explain it well, but as I said this is a complex subject. To be sure, you can ask someone else too. Maybe they are smarter than me. Thank you for your question :-)
well that's kinda weird, tho I heard even on duolingo in 1 sentence "katona" was stressed on the first a and in another one, on the last a
I heard that if you are asking a question, then the penultimate syllable (last but one) of some words is stressed.
Is this only for infinitives (Mit akarsz gonDOLni?) or also for other words?
Or is this only for yes-no questions but not for WH- questions?
Jó napot! First of all, thank you very, very much for starting this discussion. :) But actually... what is the difference between jó napot and jó reggelt?
Jó reggelt! = Good morning! Jó napot! = Good afternoon! Jó estét! = Good evening! Good morning is used before noon in English and used before 9am in Hungarian. Good afternoon is used between noon and 6pm in English and used between 9am and 6pm in Hungarian. And Good evening is used after 6pm in both languages. As used in this course (Jó napot=Good day) is closer to Have a nice day or simply "Hello" and it can be used all day. :-)
And Jó éjszakát = Good night :) Nap = day, napot: accusative of nap. Reggel = morning, reggelt: accusative of reggel. Este=evening, estét: accusative of este
9am?! :O That's pretty early to say "good afternoon" to me, in Poland we don't even have a separate phrase for that, we say "dzień dobry" until the evening. But then again, we say "miłego popołudnia" as "have a nice afternoon" though it's a different thing. ;) Köszönöm! :)
Haha :) Between 9am and 6pm we are saying Jó napot (literally: good day). We do not say literally good afternoon. Afternoon means literally "délután", but we do not say Jó délutánt!, only "dzień dobry" just like you :).
A question to the articles a and az:
Are there cases, where we use "az", although the noun is not starting with an vocel, if there is an adjective in the front?
Or does the az always refer to an noun, which starts with an vowel?
A alacsony ferfi. OR Az alacsony ferfi.
"The short man", in English
I think that I can remember to such cases. Am I right?
Thank you very much.