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- "Kik veszik az autókat?"
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They still have different pronunciations. "VIH-sem" and "VEH-sem"
vinni (to take): viszem, viszed, viszi, visszük, visszitek, viszik
venni (to buy):veszem, veszed, veszi, vesszük, vesszitek, veszik
There's also "VAY-shem"!
vésni (to lose): vésem, vésed, vési, véssük, vésitek, vésik
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That's what I had too and it was marked wrong. Please explain why or whether it should be reported.
"Kik veszik" is definite 3 person plural, right? If so, is "Who are buying the cars?" also a possible translation for this sentence?
You are correct. Who, generally, is treated as singular, even when it "makes sense" or "is meant" to be multiple people.
So who are is grammatically correct, but is unnatural. It is only natural when the number of people referred to by who is explicitly more than one (by grammar or plural noun, not implicitly). Ex. Who is on the basketball team? vs Who are the people going to the game?
This also leads to a weird situation where you may switch to who are based on another sentence. Lots of people are buying cars and trucks. Who are buying the cars? The people who aren't buying the trucks. In this example, the previously odd-sounding Who are buying the cars? should suddenly sound OK.
Thanks! That answer was marked as incorrect. But I'll report it next time I see it.
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English uses singular for who (unless it is explicit eg "Who are the men buying the cars?").
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Cuz to buy is "venni". In definite conjugation: veszem, veszed, veszi, vesszük, vesszitek, veszik
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No - it's: veszem, veszed, veszi, vesszük, veszitek, veszik.
Only inni doubles the sz in 2nd person plural (and others) Iszom, iszod, issza, isszuk, isszátok, isszák
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Oh thank you for correction! I have just copied this pattern from JohnWeber's comment above.
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Venni is one of a small number of irregular verbs in Hungarian. Most of them follow the "only double the first person plural for present definite when ending in a sibilant" rule - inni is an exception (as is hozni which isn't otherwise irregular).
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Sorry I came to Hungarian late and am in the habit of using the infinitive - which is not standard for Hungarian. Sorry.
inni is to drink as in iszom, iszol, iszik.
The first thing that was confusing me is "venni" which I'm assuming is the infinitive "to buy". The conjugated verbs don't look anything like the infinitive! I haven't seen "inni" before either.
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I just had a look to see if Hungarian has a verb conjugation site like French. I don't know how accurate it is but it agrees with me on this one https://www.verbix.com/webverbix/go.php?T1=vesz&Submit=Go&D1=121&H1=221
So the "s" is only doubled in the first and second person plurals? not in the third person plural?
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In 1st and 2nd plurals must be -ju:k ending, but sz eats it and gets doubled.
Upd: I'm wrong, 2nd pl doesn't double the "s".
OK so I was right then -- the 3rd person plural doesn't double the "s". Thanks.
