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"Mil naw saith dim"

Translation:Nineteen seventy

July 9, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DesertGlass

Is it supposed to be dim? Or deg?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rmcode
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'Mil naw saith dim' is the standard answer here but I've heard 'Mil naw saith deg'.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DesertGlass

Hmm can dim mean zero? Will you be adding that into the "under construction" notes?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rmcode
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Dim is very much used as zero in Maths although some people use 'sero' instead.

Thanks for the reminder of the notes, time to add more now.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Deyan161

I was marked wrong for "one thousand nine hundred and seventy". Is there another way of saying large numbers? Didn't realise this was meant to be a date - is it implied in the expression?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rmcode
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As already explained this is a special format for a date, literally Thousand nine seven zero (1970)

It's a very simple pattern, for all dates from 1000 to 1999 it's just mil followed by each following digit expressed as a simple number.

The new millennium starts with Dwy fill followed by the digits.

eg 2016 = dwy fil un chwech or sometimes dwy fil un deg chwech

For the numbers after a thousand then eg 1970 = un mil naw cant saith deg or un mil naw cant a saith deg etc.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Deyan161

Thanks to both Ellis and mcode.

At the risk of being bothersome, how does one say the years 0 - 999? For instance, is 617 cant chwe(ch) un saith? and 43 pedwar tri (or tair)?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rmcode
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There are different possible answers here:- eg The sentence:- 'In the year six hundred and seventeen' would sound better to me as 'Yn y flwyddyn chwech un saith but the other suggestion 'Chwe chant un saith' and also 'Chwe chant un deg saith' are also forms I've heard.

43 = Forty Three AD (or 43 CE as it often called these days) is usually Pedwar deg tri OC (OC = Ar l C**rist)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EllisVaughan

You would say "Chwe chant un saith". And don't worry about being bothersome we're here to help.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Raizel

It might help if you guys add something to this section's "Tips & notes"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/neiljones78

Can you also drop the 'dwy fil' and just say 'yn un saith' or 'yn dau dim'?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EllisVaughan

Yes this is a date due to the format. Years are always like this whereas "1970" as a number is said "Un fil saithdeg". (Not sure which bits are supposed to be one word.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/susanescott

Wouldn't "un fil saithdeg" be 1070, not 1970?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EllisVaughan

Yes, sorry it should say "Un fil naw cant saith deg."


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ben563858

1970 not accepted. I wonder why as 1955 was accepted earlier

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