"The lamp is above the table."

Translation: A lámpa az asztal fölött van.

[Ishana92]

is there a context difference between felett and folott

[Andreas305]

You mean "felett" and "fölött". No, there is no difference, you can use both of them as synonyms.

The same is possible with "fölé / felé" and "fölül / felül".

But I would prefer the versions with ö, because "felé" means also "into a direction" and "felül" means "to sit up on something"

[vvsey]

Actually, "fölé" and "felé" are not a matching pair! They are two different words.

"fölé" - "to a place above something"
"felé" - "toward something"

There is no overlap in their meanings.

And "felül" and "fölül" can both mean "on top", "sits up" or "sits up on something".
So they are a true pair.
The "sit up" part comes from the coincidental matching with the preverb-verb combination "fel-"+"ül".

[Andreas305]

Thank you very much. So I have kept something wrong in my mind :-/

[vvsey]

It is a very easy mistake to make. :)
Here is a list:
https://www.duolingo.com/comment/16759359

[_paranoia_]

Can you leave the "van" verb out of the sentence? It marks it incorrect when I do so.
But I thought that with the "van" verb, it was closer to "There is a lamp above the table."'

[RagnhildLu]

When you are talking about location of an object you have to use "van".

[Apahegy]

And questions. You don't say "Hol ő" but "Hol van ő."

[vvsey]

You must say "Ki ő?" (no "van")
You can't say "Ki van ő?"
And you must say "Hol van ő?" But with other locational questions, you can omit the "van".

[Andreas305]

Just a scene I remind from years ago to show, that the rule is not that fixed ;-)

Szemorvos: "Olvassa kérem a táblán levő betűket."
Beteg: "De hol a tábla?"

[ideasmanphd]

Ok, accepting that "A lámpa az asztal fölött van" is better, why isn't "A lámpa van az asztal fölött" also correct?

[mbgreen11]

Could "A lámpa az asztal fent van" work?

[mizinamo]

No.

fent is an adverb, not a postposition -- something like "on top". You can't say "on top the table" in English -- you need a (compound) preposition such as "on top of" or "above" or "over".

[mbgreen11]

Thank you!