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"The lamp is above the table."

Translation:A lámpa az asztal fölött van.

July 9, 2016



is there a context difference between felett and folott


You mean "felett" and "fölött". No, there is no difference, you can use both of them as synonyms.

The same is possible with "fölé / felé" and "fölül / felül".

But I would prefer the versions with ö, because "felé" means also "into a direction" and "felül" means "to sit up on something"


Actually, "fölé" and "felé" are not a matching pair! They are two different words.

"fölé" - "to a place above something"
"felé" - "toward something"

There is no overlap in their meanings.

And "felül" and "fölül" can both mean "on top", "sits up" or "sits up on something".
So they are a true pair.
The "sit up" part comes from the coincidental matching with the preverb-verb combination "fel-"+"ül".


Thank you very much. So I have kept something wrong in my mind :-/


It is a very easy mistake to make. :)
Here is a list: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/16759359


Can you leave the "van" verb out of the sentence? It marks it incorrect when I do so. But I thought that with the "van" verb, it was closer to "There is a lamp above the table."'


When you are talking about location of an object you have to use "van".


And questions. You don't say "Hol ő" but "Hol van ő."


You must say "Ki ő?" (no "van")
You can't say "Ki van ő?"
And you must say "Hol van ő?" But with other locational questions, you can omit the "van".


Just a scene I remind from years ago to show, that the rule is not that fixed ;-)

Szemorvos: "Olvassa kérem a táblán levő betűket." Beteg: "De hol a tábla?"


Ok, accepting that "A lámpa az asztal fölött van" is better, why isn't "A lámpa van az asztal fölött" also correct?


Could "A lámpa az asztal fent van" work?



fent is an adverb, not a postposition -- something like "on top". You can't say "on top the table" in English -- you need a (compound) preposition such as "on top of" or "above" or "over".

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