https://www.duolingo.com/AnNa905498

Too few repetitions of new words

Thanks for this course, I'm really enjoying it :) But as I progress in the course it's getting harder for me to remember new words. I think this is because the new words occur only once or twice in a lesson. Before the first checkpoint words are repeated more often. But further along in the course it gets less. It also doesn't help for my memory that individual words have no audio. For me, it's much harder to remember a word without sound. So an occurrence of a new word, before I know the pronunciation, is to me much less valuable, than an occurrence after I know the pronunciation.

In conclusion, my request would be to add more repetitions, either by adding a few extra sentences per lesson, or by reusing words from the more recently completed lessons (instead of words from the first few basic lessons.) Or maybe to change the order of occurrences, such that a lesson starts with a sentence with spoken pronunciation, and ends with repetitions of individual words.

This is probably very hard to implement,but thanks for reading anyway :)

July 11, 2016

8 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Leshonim

I also noticed that, and that's why I use Hebrew Duolingo supplemental course by Mazzorano (one of the DL course contributors) on Memrise. It's super effective!

July 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BenMizrahi0

I think this is a major problem in all Duolingo courses. I have already encountering that problem in both the German and the Spanish courses.

July 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TalYariv

As a fluent hebrew speaker, i'm finding the course to be fairly, if not even overly difficult. It seems to not be very user/learner friendly, possibly due to too few acceptable translations? Too few word repetitions play their role on complicating it for new learners?

I'm finding it strange that right from the start, the learner is required to write and spell on their own, instead of the box selection option; with the words already written and to structure the translated sentence with them. Which to me feels like throwing the learner into deep water too fast, too soon. Should allow them time to get accustomed to recognizing the letters first, knowing what they look like, how the words look like; all before asking them to spell it on their own. ( with no hebrew keyboard unless they open a virtual keyboard on screen, since hebrew is only on the pc-webapp at this time )

I think it's wonderful that Hebrew made it on to this platform. I just hope the contributors are open to accepting feedback.

Happy learning to all :)

July 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Mazzorano

Tal, we cannot control the type of exercise - this answers your first question.

There is a misconception (particularly with new users) that one can cruise through the course without reading the Tips and Notes. That is not so. The T&N are a crucial part of the learning process and although the learning curve may be steep, it can be overcome. We thrive to correct this in the new tree, once this tree is stable.

July 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/StubbsTEFL

I tried lesson #1 and was totally confused.. It seems that a person is supposed to already know the alphabet because the "letters" is words: words that look different but apparently mean the same thing. I read the "notes" but expected more help in learning the alphabet. I don't think I can learn in this platform.

July 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

The course contributors had to work within the Duolingo framework, which doesn't as yet have any provision for teaching an alphabet. The Russian and Ukrainian teams also had the same issue. The Hebrew team have, however, provided Memrise courses to cover the gap, and also tips and notes, which you do really need to read unless you knew the alphabet before you started.

July 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/rachael.cr3

I find that once I do a sentence correctly, it automatically adds a huge amount to the "bar" and acts as if I am almost done the lesson. Considering that these are usually sentences people have the most trouble with, I think a few repetitions would be very helpful.

July 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Stweiss2

People have to keep in mind what their goals are when they start a tree. For sure your prior experience in the language matters greatly.

When I do the Spanish/English and English/Spanish trees, I can do several lessons in one session and speed through them because I already speak both languages. There is an occasional new word or grammatical nuance, but the vast majority of what is presented is review for me. I therefore put most of my effort into doing timed practice in Spanish and English and do not spend very much time doing new lessons. My goal here is improved speed and facility with switching back and forth between Spanish and English. I am planning to move on to doing some of the translation exercises once I complete both of these trees in the next month or two.

In contrast, learning Hebrew is a new venture for me. I did learn the alphabet prior to starting the Duo tree, but I still had to memorize the Hebrew keyboard, which took several weeks of daily practice. Since I had trouble remembering the words, I added the Memrise course and now do lessons in there daily as well. And, very different from Spanish/English and English/Spanish, I spend most of my practice time repeating old Hebrew lessons. In fact, I'm only completing one new lesson per day and then repeating it at least once or twice, plus repeating other lessons from prior days. When I do the occasional practice session in Hebrew, I don't do it timed, since I am aiming for retention/accuracy here, not speed. It's just a matter of repeating each and every lesson enough times until I finally can retain all of the material from it.

In general, think about what your language learning needs are, and then use the system here accordingly. There is nothing wrong with repeating the same lessons two, three, ten, or 100 times if that's what it takes to help you retain the words in a new language that you're learning for the first time. If you keep repeating the difficult lessons daily over a period of several weeks, you will have enough repetition of words, and you will find that eventually you do retain the material from those lessons.

March 3, 2017
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