Someone interested in Mapudungun or Mapuche language? Some people requested a course, but it will take some years. Meanwhile, I can post some messages about this interesting language from Chile and Argentina if there are people who want to learn about it.
Edit: Six months later, I can start the course. In Spanish or English?
Edit 2: Let's begin! Index will be here.
Mapudungun is a language isolate (not related to any other language) and it has around 100,000 active speakers and 100,000 passive speakers. Its numbers are decreasing because of lack of transmission to new generations, due to fear of discrimination and higher prestige of Spanish.
Some resources I found so far: English-Mapudungun online dictionary: https://glosbe.com/arn/en/ Pronunciations of words on Forvo (105 so far): http://forvo.com/languages-pronunciations/arn/ Bible stories in Mapudungan: http://wol.jw.org/arn/wol/publication/r203/lp-mpd/my/MPD/2004 Spanish/ Mapudungun Glossary: http://fiestoforo.cl/dungun/pdf/dicc/2006_Zuniga_Glosario.pdf Another Spanish/ Mapudungun Glossary (scroll down): http://tribuquerandi.blogspot.com/
I love to learn the languages (I'm from Chile), in my country has not a ''preservation politics'' so it's a almost unknown language for the majority
Parece que hay unos cuantos interesados de Chile, así que podría hacer publicaciones en castellano también.
Hola Chilotin, muchas gracias por compartir este curso con nosotros. ¿Ha habido alguna novedad con respecto a la posibilidad de crear el curso Mapudungun-Español o Mapudungun-Inglés? Yo no hablo Mapudungun, pero quiero aprenderlo al igual que muchos acá, así que cualquier cosa que se te ocurra en la que puedo contribuir, estoy a disposición. ¡Saludos!
I really want to learn Mapudungun!!! I'm Argentinian with a Mapuche last name, l'm proud of my heritage and I would love to use Duolingo to learn this lenguage.
I'd love a mapudungun course.
There is a group on Facebook dedicated to Mapudungun and there is a lot of active users and speakers there who seem pretty dedicated to the language. I think if all of them could see this post and upvote it there'd be a lot more chances of it getting worked on and finished.
It's all in spanish/mapudungun though the page.
There are some groups. I know "Aprender mapudungun" with more than 30,000 members. However, I left that group because of no advance in learning: "How do you say 'Hello!'?" and "Mapudungun can be written because it is an oral language" in an eternal loop. Many of such users could help here, but I think they won't see this message.
I made 3 lessons, you can follow the links above. I have not made more because there were no comments or questions. I suspect interest faded or my lessons are bad.
Oh, that's a shame. If the dedicated ones could link it to that page they'd get a lot of help, maybe if there was an active duolingo course they could work towards it'd encourage people to learn more and they wont be questions like " how do I say hello?" especially in facebook groups, it's hard to have things organized enough to teach people.
Duolingo made your post a voting post so if your mapudungun post ( this one) gets a lot of votes it's going to be considered a higher priority and may get worked on sooner, especially if there are a lot of contributers.
Maybe I'll try to post about this there but I think my spanish isn't good enough. I'll check out your lessons though, thanks! i think its more because it's hard to find your posts and not a lot of people know about Mapudungun.
I have added this post to the[GUIDE] I would like a new course: What should I do?
Thanks. Some friends and I already do it. But it is clear that a Mapudungun course won't open in this year or next. Therefore, I'd like to post some messages about that language. I've seen Finnish "courses" in this forum. If those posts are discouraged by Duolingo, there is no problem, I won't post messages. What do you suggest?.
If those posts are discouraged by Duolingo
Your post is perfectly fine as being the first one suggesting a Mapudungun course (for English speakers).
Lrtward was just notifying you that this discussion has been listed (in the Guide) as the reference discussion suggesting "Mapudungun for English speakers", so has being the discussion where users interested by it should come and add their voice to the request.
Also, "courses" like post are ok and welcomed too.
What do you suggest?.
I'd suggest having a main "Mapudungun for English speakers user-made course" where you list links to each "lessons" you have posted (or will post) in the general "Duolingo" (in English) forum [=the forum where this current discussion is posted].
¡Gracias Chilotin por ofrecer Mapudungun! I want to subscribe to Mapudungun lessons! (Pienso que simplemente es comenzar con los posteos y mantenerlos con cierta regularidad. En este momento, por ejemplo, no estoy haciendo posteos nuevos sobre traducciones en lenguas romances con un bonus de lenguas nativas de diferentes continentes y quería publicar algo de gramática sobre lenguas indígenas de todo el continente americano también. Seguramente voy a continuar con estos posteos muy pronto).
I think in this moment there are more and more people from every nation, and every continent supporting the rich culture of indigenous people from Abya Yala to the First Nations and Turtle Island. Sami and Maori people are also giving support to Native American tribes. So, you will always see a good moment to spread a language as Mapudungun and all about the history and cultural aspects are also welcome!
Abya Yala, from Kuna language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abya_Yala)
Turtle Island / North America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Island_(North_America))
First Nations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Nations)
¡Un gran abrazo! =)
Hmm, when are you going to start the "slow" courses? (aka like the Finnish one)
Hmm, when are you going to start the "slow" courses? (aka like the Finnish one)
Who is "you"?
I think they meant "Chilotin " because Chilotin wrote "I'd like to post some messages about that language. I've seen Finnish "courses" in this forum. "
I have a friend whose ex was Chilean and the children all have Mapuche names. So I'd be fascinated to learn something about it.
Mari mari/ hello/ hola :) I am American and my mother is from Chile. Even though my Chilean family speaks only Spanish and English (and only taught me English, thank goodness for resources like DL to help teach me!), I would love to learn Mapudungun, either from English or Spanish. Chilotin, are you a native speaker? Let me know if I can help; for example, I can proofread the English portion. I am excited to learn more about the language and culture; for example, there is no simple word in English for a "cherüfwe" (evil force in fireball shape that causes and announces misfortunes).
I'm not a native speaker, I've studied the language some years. Your help with English would be great :) I hope we have news soon.
I would love to learn Mapudungun but I think it might be more practical to have a Mapundungun course for Spanish speakers?
Why one first?
=> Because it's how Duo works about adding new languages(*): they start by one course and wait for it to be finished before starting creating other courses with the same language.
Why not both (and even more) at some point?
=> no reason to not have many courses teaching Mapudungun being developped during the next years.
(*) "new language" = language that has no course teaching it nor teaching from it yet
Inche küpa kimtun mapuzüngun! I would love to have this course available! Even better if it's in Spanish :)
Ayülmi tami kimürpual kiñeke dungu mapuchedungun mu, iñche kelluafeyu (si quieres aprender algunas cosas del mapudungun, te podría ayudar)
If you want, I can help you to learn mapudungun. Ayülmi tami kimürpual mapudungun, iñche kelluafeyu. Si quieres, te puedo ayudar a aprender mapudungun. Jajaja... y en español ¡saludos!
Esa es la idea... lamentablemente la información está repartida en los foros de duolingo pero no hay un curso que reuna toda la información y la estructure. Quienes queremos aprender estamos a merced de quienes sí conocen el idioma.
Espero que todavia hay una posibilidad de empezar la construccíon de este curso. Para poder mejorar la reputacion de los Mapuche se necesita un curso del lenguaje Mapudungun y la cultura Mapuche.