https://www.duolingo.com/h.mayorquin

Percentage of Duollingo users with a given level suggestion

Hi, people. What do you think of adding a feature to duoling that shows how many people in duoling are at a particular height on the tree?

Like if you are in the section of verbs 4 in French or something like that a little box showing what percentage of people actually made it here.

I think that it can create motivation for people and it must not be hard to implement but just saying.

What do you think?

5 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Grace-Georgia

Duolingo: Instead of percentage.. Shows real number.. "X number of people reached that level".

Myself says: Wow.. So many people did it. I'll do it, too!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

Or what about both the percentage and the actual number?

:)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/maiconerd

Genius!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/856pm

There is a problem: inactive users. How many users are active? Do the people who just do the welcome lesson and leave count? What if you haven't worked in a year?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/h.mayorquin

Well I believed that they should be included. That will give an idea how many people just quit and how much of an achievement is just to stay practicing. In short: A lot of people are quiters, you are doing a great job just by trying even if it hard.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Grace-Georgia

there are so many people who don't want to use duolingo but singed in and saw "what duolingo looks like". They are not quiters. They are internet users not interested in using duolingo. They may only attend language classes or they are not interested in learning languages or whatever. They shouldn't be included.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mayor.Tony

simply base it of a percentage of people who complete the first lesson.
I think that would give you the most real data, however any additional filtering past this would just be fudging numbers.

interesting side note. my name shows french 7... bust does not show that I'm on Italian or Spanish 1 here in the forum... i suspect this for the same reason as we are discussing here.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/buunny
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Are you learning all three languages from the same base language?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mayor.Tony

yes

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/squiggy.fl

Complete the first lesson? That takes minutes. A curious person might do the lesson just to see what duo was like. The reason I tried a couple languages here was so that I could see what it would be like once they got languages that I actually like.

Percentages would be too Demotivating. Numbers would be better because if I see that 10 people got to level X, it is more motivating than saying .05% got to level X. When you see a percentage, you assume that is how likely you are to get that far, where as if you see a number without an 'out of' score, you just think about becoming the 11th person.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/h.mayorquin

That's true. Point taken. As this whole topic shows there are a lot of details on the implementation. But that doesn't mean that something easy can't be tried at the beginning and the iteration will improve it.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Klgregonis
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Feb 3, 2014 What would you do with those of us who signed up for multiple languages, and decided that they don't have the time for more than one or two (or, in my case, signed up for the reverse tree in one language but haven't touched it because I want to work through the English to Spanish tree first? I am on here regularly, but spend MUCH more time on English to Spanish than anything else.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ALoUSyUseRnaME
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Well, than do it how the leaderboard works, whoever earned points this week, month, and all time.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Grace-Georgia

Agree.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/h.mayorquin

Isn't it for your friends only? Besides percentages provide another metric in some senses easier to interpret.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Noe010101
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But maybe it could be done with the users who have a day streak of at least 1.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/856pm

Well, then there's the problem: what if I skip a day? Is that being inactive?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Noe010101
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No, it's not, then you wouldn't be included in this statistic but only when you activate the streak, I think:P

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jinhale

After listening to Malcolm Gladwell talk about this sort of ranking I'm concerned that users may become intimidated and drop out of DuoLingo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEwbRWFZVc

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jurekcy1

great video and man has a point

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Susande
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Thanks for sharing that video, it's great!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WinstonSullivan

I know this is old, but I think this would be a great motivation idea!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/christine.483

sounds like a good idea

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elgatobandido
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I like this idea too. It could help to know how many other users at at my level in Spanish, or whatever other languages I might start in the future.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paultomey

I like the idea a lot. I would be very interested to know the exact number of people who have achieved each language level. Is there any problem with Duolingo providing that number or is it secret?

And yes, I would like to know how that compares, as a % of people that say complete at least one previous level (some people test out of the beginning levels).

My vote is for exact number of people who complete each level!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Inglor

This is what I, too, would like to know. How many people do actually hold level 25 in, say, German? That would be a huge motivation for me.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Susande
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And next to that: show how many people have completed the tree. E.g. I speak both Dutch and English and to help out with the Dutch > English lessons I completed the tree at level 11 (everything golden), so I know I will never reach a very high level.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paultomey

I didn't know there was Dutch...or perhaps they have English for native Dutch speaker but not the other way around?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Susande
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That's right, they have English for Dutch speakers in beta now, the reverse course will start in the incubator in a few weeks, so it'll probably be available in beta in some 2 or 3 months.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pofors

If the data exists, I would love to go one step further and see a graph of how long people on average stayed at the various tree heights (or maybe a median value or some other way of sorting out the outliers that would suggest someone just took a break from studying). Or maybe switch time for how many times they had to practice a certain skill. That would give some idea of which parts most people find challenging. That way, when you're feeling stuck (most likely in the same place where everybody gets stuck) it'd be encouraging to see that it is in fact normal. It would also be interesting from a more general language learning standpoint. Of course, I have no idea if data like this is even collected and saved.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/energyboss2000

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/energyboss2000

good

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cacau76

nice!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/George--Smith

In 2013, 1 in 100 members had completed their course

(there were 10,000,000 registered users, and 100,000 of them had completed their course)

In 2017, there are now over 150,000,000 registered users (around 15 times as many as there were in 2013), so the percentage of those who complete a course could have changed dramatically. We can only assume that it's still somewhere around 1 percent though, since we have no data to suggest otherwise.

This 2013 article, which refers to statements from Luis von Ahn (the founder of Duolingo) gives both the numbers for 2013: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/15/tech/mobile/duolingo-incubator-language-teaching/

Duolingo total registered users in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duolingo

1 year ago
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