"Họ hạnh phúc cho cô ấy."
Translation:They are happy for her.
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Họ mừng cho cô ấy? Dùng chữ "hạnh phúc" có vẻ không tự nhiên lắm, mình chưa nghe ai nói như vậy bao giờ :(
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"Làm ơn nói tiếng anh" or "Xin hãy nói tiếng anh" is the right way :D "Họ mừng cho cô ấy" is how we say it in Vietnam, formally. That sentence above ("Họ hạnh phúc cho cô ấy") is very unnatural to hear. I've never heard anyone say it. AND even "Họ mừng cho cô ấy" is rare, I often think about it as the way a hypocrite congratulates someone, since it's too formal and doesn't sound "happy for her". Some same-same variations are "Họ chúc mừng cô ấy" or "Họ thấy mừng cho cô ấy" (this is the way I would say). The most natural way in my opinion is "Họ thấy mừng cho cổ" ("cổ" = "cô ấy" in Southern Vietnam), as I live in the southern part of Vietnam.
But isn't "Họ chúc mừng cô ấy" and the other examples you've given meant to say "they congratulate her"? Seems like there is a difference between saying "I congratulate you" and "I am happy for you". Or do Vietnamese just not say that?
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Yeah, "Họ chúc mừng cô ấy" is "They congratulate her", and it's not really the same as "They're happy for her". That's why I said it's only a same-same variation. "Họ thấy mừng cho cô ấy" or "Họ mừng cho cô ấy", on the other hand, means literally "They feel happy for her", which is in my opinion close enough to "They are happy for her".
nobody says "Họ hạnh phúc cho ..." in Vietnamese. Instead, "Họ mừng cho cô ấy"
"họ hạnh phúc cho cô ấy" nghe ngượng ngượng ntn ấy, chắc "họ thấy mừng thay cho cô ấy" or "họ chúc mừng cô ấy" is better
So no one says it but what interests me is that in an earlier example "Is he happy" có was needed before hahn phuc and hêre it is left out. Why???
hạnh phúc can be used as an adjective or a noun.
To be happy (=have happiness, used as a noun) would be có hạnh phúc or (=be happy, used as an adjective, no copula), simply là hạnh phúc.
mind a small correction?
có in the sentence Michael referred to is actually the first half of the có/không set of question words meant to ask a yes/no question: bạn có hạnh phúc không. it is not the verb to have/to possess + hạnh phúc (as a noun), because in VNmese just like in English, happiness is not really sthg we can have/possess.
In latin languages you can be lucky and have luck (in life, in a situation i.e.), so I felt it quite natural in Vietnamese... Thank you for still being around Huyền! I feel sometimes really alone here, trying to help so accurate as possible.
you're doing great. if you have any questions, feel free to ask even if it's not directly related to the sentence.
Họ =they
hạnh phúc =happy
cho =for
cô ấy =her
Hạnh phúc can be used as an adjective (like in this sentence: copula 'is' =là always implied with adjectives) or a noun.