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- "Did she advise you?"
"Did she advise you?"
Translation:Hat sie Sie beraten?
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Wow! I love it when I can come back and answer my own questions. This explanation turned out to be very useful. Here we go:
1) We need dich here because that's how beraten works. It is a transitive verb that takes 'somebody' as the object. "She advises you."
This is different to how raten works - it takes 'the piece of advice' as the direct object, and 'somebody' as the indirect object (i.e. dative case). So whereas you can beraten somebody [full stop], you raten somebody something. English uses the same verb for both:
"I advise you" = I am your advisor (beraten, dich)
"I advise taking a break" = I advise [to you] that you should take a break (raten, dir)
As you can see from this, to translate Duolingo's English sentence into German, we must use beraten as there is no 'piece of advice' mentioned which raten needs. It's just general 'advising'. And so, "you" are the direct object and that is dich.
2) Following on from that, we just look up beraten on Canoo.net and are informed that beraten's participle is... beraten. This happens a lot [EDIT: always] with the be- prefix.
Geraten could only come from the main verb being raten (which we just discussed) or geraten (which means something unrelated).
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Yes, but it is not always the case that a be- verb's infinitive form and past participle are identical (which is what I thought az_p was expressing surprise about). Examples: beenden (weak) has the past participle beendet; bestehen (strong) has the past participle bestanden.
It's common to have one but it is not necessary. Duden even lists some examples without an accusative complement: http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/raten_Rat_geben_erraten_loesen
No, the person giving the advice has to come first.
- Hat sie Sie beraten? = Did she advise you?
- Haben Sie sie beraten? = Did you advise her/them?
- Haben sie sie beraten? = Did they advise her/them?
- Hat sie sie beraten? = Did she advise her/them?
- Haben Sie sie beraten? = Did you advise her/them?
- Haben sie Sie beraten? = Did they advise you?
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Great discussion, it clarified a lot, but can I just confirm whether 'Hat sie Sie/euch/dich beraten' are all correct?