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mit/min & dit/din v dets/den

please can someone tell me if this is correct?

kaninen spiser mit aeble. kaninen spiser dit aeble. jeg spiser mit aeble. hesten sover: kaninen spiser dens aeble og jeg spiser dens aeble. aben har mit jakkesaet pa, og jeg har dens jakkesaet pa. dyret har mine skoene pa, og jeg har dets skoene pa.

if it is my or your apple/clothes, refer back to the apple/clothes. if it is its apple, refer back to 'it'.

if i have got it wrong, please please can someone explain why, and how it works, in words of one syllable that a five year old can understand, because its taken me ages to work it out..

and why is it: det er min avis, and not den er min avis?

2 years ago

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arielkangaroo
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\1. "Sko", not "skoene", but otherwise correct*; possessives are explained in this lesson.

\2. It is "Det er min avis" because "det" is used in "It is/that is [object]" sentences, regardless of gender. For example: "Det er en grim stol", "Det er min kat", and even "Er det min lampe?". The indefinite article (en/et) or the possessive (min/mit/dit/din/sin/sit/etc.) preceding the noun indicates its gender, not "det". Like in your particular sentence, it is "min" which indicates the gender of "avis" (not "det"!).

"Den" (and "det" as well) are used in situations when the subject has already been established, or the subject is implied. For example: "Frakken er smuk." "Ja, den er meget smuk."

I hope this was clear (if not--just ask!)

2 years ago

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Just a learner, not a native, but it all looks right to me.

As I recall, the dummy pronoun in 'it is...' is always 'det er...', regardless of the gender of whatever it is being equated with (just as in French one would say 'il y a' but never 'elle y a' even if what follows is feminine).

2 years ago

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Ah! Thanks! That is very plain now. I did basic French at school about a hundred years ago, but putting that French explanation helped.

2 years ago

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Thank you both. I hope I have it clear now. I had seen the explanation in the lesson, but i misunderstood it. Where it says: Jeg spiser dit aeble/I eat your apple, I thought it referred back to the apple because of jeg/I whereas it refers back to the apple because of dit/your. it doesn't matter who does the eating, what is important is who it belongs to. If it's an animal or thing it refers back to the animal/thing doing the owning, if it's mine or yours, or refers back to the object. so "I put the blanket on the dog's bed" would be dens because of the dog. "I put the blanket on my bed" would be mit because of the bed. "I put the dogs blanket on my bed" would be dens then mit. Is that right?

I don't know how to say the last sentence, i am assuming blanket and bed are t words ;)

If I've got it right, its so easy, after not understanding for months! If I've got it wrong, then I despair!

2 years ago

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arielkangaroo
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It doesn't matter who does the eating, what is important is who it belongs to.

Only if you're using "dets/dens".

Otherwise, the gender of the possessive and the item it corresponds to must agree.

"I put the blanket on the dog's bed" would be dens because of the dog.

Yes.

"I put the blanket on my bed" would be mit because of the bed.

"I put the dog's blanket on my bed" would be dens then mit.

A bed (en seng) is common gender, but yes, the idea is right! :)

Basically, if the word is a common gender noun (like en kanin, hesten, avisen), it would use "min/din/sin".

If the word is a neuter gender noun ( like et æble, jakkesættet), it would use "mit/dit/sit".

And if it's a plural noun it uses "mine/dine/sine".

2 years ago

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okay thank you all,that was very helpful I've got it now :-D I wish I'd thought of going on here before!

2 years ago