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Swedish Multi-Choice sentences

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I am originally from Sweden. Now I am trying to maintain fluency in the language. I have found Duolingo to be excellent in some other languages and generally also in Swedish. However, why cannot all three sentences in the multi-choice (sentence) questions be grammatically correct - one of them is usually correct, whereas the other two make no sense what-so-ever. In the Spanish, French and German courses all three choices are usually grammatically correct, though only one or two translates correctly. I would like to see the Swedish course changed accordingly - grammatically incorrect Swedish does simply not belong in a Swedish language course.

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/devalanteriel
devalanteriel
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We'd all like that a lot. Unfortunately, the choices are generated pseudorandomly on the fly by the system, and the course content creators cannot affect what options you're given.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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To add a little precision: the wrong answers are (supposed to be) chosen among the most common wrong answers made by the community.

2 years ago

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devalanteriel
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I've heard that too, but the single most common replacement in the Swedish course for me appears to be "take an arbitrarily chosen word and replace it with äpple". :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Swedish from English course may not have had yet enough exercises taken by users for the algorithm to consider it can rely yet on the stats of "most common error".
"Old" courses (like French) had essentially wrong options in multiple choices being grammatically wrong at their beginning, it changed little by little.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnauti
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They don't look like they're taken from common wrong answers in any language to me, instead, they look like they take 'other accepted answers' and replace a word or two in them with randomly chosen words. They also don't seem to be generated on the fly, since I've noticed I usually get the same 3 choices every time. This is how it works for me in most languages at the moment and I'm doing quite a few combinations. I've noticed that they have changed over time though, the wrong answers used to be more grammatically incorrect in the past, so I think you're right about that one.

It could be that they get very little data about wrong answers for these specific sentences, since they usually pick the longest and most difficult sentences to be used for multiple choice questions, and then basically don't use these sentences for translation anymore.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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taken from common wrong answers in any language to me

It's what staff told to contributors back in the time.

They also don't seem to be generated on the fly

They indeed are not.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/devalanteriel
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That's certainly possible, but it would surprise me if they didn't have enough data to generate feasible predictions by now. You don't really need that much. Still, whatever the reason, thanks for adding it. :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnauti
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Personally I wish I could customize my lessons so that I wouldn't get any multiple choice questions at all. As a contributor, of course I wish I could edit the wrong options. If they were controlled by humans, these questions might be useful in some way. As it is, I think they're only good for training reading speed. Anyway as devalanteriel said, contributors unfortunately cannot influence how this works, and while Duo staff might look at the general forums sometimes, I doubt they ever read ours.

2 years ago
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