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None is plural. This is incorrect. It would be none are pretty, or no one is pretty, or it isn't pretty, etc
None is not plural, it's like an abbreviation for no one, but put together.
No one abbreviates no one to none. Or should I say, None abbreviates none to none. Potentially this is a strange American-Englisgh thing, but I am English, and this is incorrect in English.
does'nt "neither" involve two parties in English? None can refer to more than two. Again, English not being my native language, I could be wrong
"Not one" means exactly the same, I feel, as a native English speaker. Also, sometimes we need to forget the grammar, and concentrate on meaning, I would suggest.
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As a native English speaker, the English translation, "None is pretty." is very odd. The alternative "None of them is pretty." is far better. I would have gone with 'are', but Grammarly recommends 'is'. I would also suggest "Not one is pretty." as an acceptable translation.
Can someone who knows Hungarian explain this construction egyik sem? I don't think we have met it in previous lessons.
Egyik - one of them. Sem - (se nem) neither ... nor Egyik sem - not even one of them.
"None" is always followed by a verb in the singular, right? It's short for 'no one', I think.
You're right. I just looked it up too. But it looks like the singular is always admissible, the plural can be when the antecedent is plural. In the US it's always singular, at least for standardized testing.
As a native British-English speaker, I am comfortable with reading both "none is" and "none are", although if I were speaking or writing I would - only probably - use "none are". Which leads me to the question, how can you assign a singularity or a plurality to something that doesn't exist? Even if none is shorthand for "not one"?
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I can't understand the logic. Egyik is the one,isn't it? Where does the "none"come from?
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Not quite clear. It is more like "one is not pretty either" which doesn't mean much,but doesn't imply "none"
