"Mi nem fiúk vagyunk, hanem férfiak."

Translation:We are not boys, but men.

July 30, 2016

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Hmm, why not "férfik"? Is this just irregular or is there a way that I could have predicted this from the form of "férfi"?


Well, "férfi" is a shortened form of "férfiú". So your next question could be "Why not férfiúk?" I don't know the answer to that question.


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Right, thanks! :)
Actually, no. It is not in your list.
And the accusative of it is "férfit", not "férfiat".
So I don't think it is a "lowering stem".

For those wondering what we are talking about:


Oh, my mistake then. I'm sorry :)


What function does the "Mi" have in this sentence? Would a more literal translation be "What we are is not boys, but men"?


"Mi" is only there for emphasis, the sentence would work without it, as well. Oh, maybe you are thinking that "Mi" is "What", is that correct? Well, it is not that. It is "We". The two words, "we" and "what" are the same in Hungarian: "mi". Sorry about that. :)


Are you apologizing for having homonyms in Hungarian?


Well, do note that this sentence isn't ambiguous - it wouldn't make sense with "mi" as "what", neither the conjugation nor the position of the verb supports that "hypothesis".

Also, in the sentence "What we are is not boys, but men", "What" wouldn't translate to "mi", rather "Ami", moreover plural. I don't think this sounds common (or even legit) in Hungarian but that sentence would be something like "Amik mi vagyunk, azok nem fiúk, hanem férfiak."


We must be swift as a coursing river.


If Hungarian language has vowel harmony, how can férfi become férfiak if "a" is a back vowel?


Also, é and i are like on the fence vowels. You still have híd, kín, cél, szomszéd, derék (the noun) as practically back vowel words. If i is the last vowel but it follows a back vowel (let alone multiple back vowels, like in optimális), I think it's more commonly considered a back vowel word than not, with é, typically both versions are used, depending on the speaker.


As vvsey says "férfi" is a shortened form of "férfiú".

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