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"Which is absolutely wrong?"

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2/2/2013, 9:17:07 AM

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Why cannot one use "quel" instead of "ce qui"?

2/2/2013, 9:17:07 AM

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"Quel" is an adjective, not a pronoun. To replace "ce qui", you would need "lequel" (pronom interrogatif), but that would introduce ambiguity: "lequel est parfaitement faux ?" as a statement, means "which is absolutely wrong".

but as question "lequel est parfaitement faux ? " means "which one is perfectly wrong?"

2/2/2013, 5:11:49 PM

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I'm sorry, I still don't understand why 'lequel' is wrong here. How can a sentence with a question mark be a statement?

("lequel est parfaitement faux ?" as a statement, means "which is absolutely wrong".)

2/10/2013, 1:37:12 PM

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why ce is used here?

2/10/2013, 2:28:40 PM

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"which" is translated by "ce que", which is an indefinite relative pronoun.

  • ce que = what: j'aime ce que je vois = I like what I see
  • ce qui = what/which: ce qui est parfaitement faux = which is absolutely wrong.
  • ce dont = of/about what/which: tu sais ce dont je parle = you know what I am talking about
  • ce à quoi = to what/which: tu sais à quoi je me réfère = you know what I am referring to

In the above examples, ce is accompanied by a relative pronoun (que/qui/dont/quoi) and stands roughly for "the thing": I like the thing that I see; I know the thing that I miss; you know the thing that I am talking about, etc. "ce" is used as an antecedent of the relative clause (starting with qui/que/dont/quoi).

The form of the relative pronoun itself depends on the construction of the verb and of its function: subject (qui), direct object (que) or indirect object : "dont" is used with verbs using preposition "de" "quoi" is used with verbs using any other preposition

For further explanations: http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/indefiniterelativepronouns.htm

2/10/2013, 4:19:17 PM

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so ce here is antecedent..so "qui est pafaitement faux" can also mean which is absolutely false???

2/10/2013, 5:00:08 PM
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