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We would never say this in British English. We would say 'Is your mum making a cake?' or 'Is your mum making cakes?'.
If I am imagining correctly - well, you'd be understood, but that would sound a bit weird.
It is bad :)
I is a special letter in Polish:
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The letter "I" can inform about the SOFTNESS of preceding consonant (C, DZ, N, S, Z) and mark the SOUND [ I ] (e.g.) - it is before consonant
siła (r: śiła) not as "s-iła" or "śła"
wozić (r: woźić) not as "wo-z-ić" or "woźć"
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The letter "I" can inform about the SOFTNESS of preceding consonant (P, B, G, K, W, F, CH, M, N, L) and mark the SOUND [ J ] - it is before vowel -- there is a different arrangement of the tongue with the pronunciation of softened sounds [ '] (with an additional movement of the tongue towards the hard palate) than with hard ones [without] (e.g.)
radio (r: radjo) as rad'jo but: radość
wiara (r: wjara) as w'jara but: wara
piasek (r: pjasek) as p'jasek but: pasek
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The letter "I" can be only a graphical sign of SOFTNESS of the preceding consonant (but it does not mean a separate sound) - it is in fact the equivalent of a diacritic mark (a line that appears in the letters: ć, dź, ś, ź, ń) - it is before vowel (e.g.)
zioła (r: źoła)
w wodzie (r: w-wodźe)
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The letter "I" can be only the SOUND [ I ] - when the letter appears after a vowel or a pause - it is before consonant (e.g)
igła
poigrać
If I gave you two words:
- kieł
- kjeł would you read them differently?
:)
I would not.
There is a spelling rule: "Zasadniczo po spółgłoskach (poza s, z, c), zarówno przed spółgłoską, jak i przed samogłoską, bez względu na wymowę piszemy literę i"
For me there is a difference between koleiny and kolejny. But not between "a dog" written as "pjes" and "pies". Google translator says that in Albanian is a word "pjes" (you can hear it), and in Croatian: pieszy = pješak - a pedestrian. Somehow Croats felt that they could write this word with "j" :D
For me there IS a sound between K and E. when I hear "kiełbasa." If linguists consider something else, it's not my business :)
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yes I would pronounce kieł with soft k (but no j) and kjeł with soft k and with j
in IPA:
kieł=kʲɛw
kjeł=kʲjɛw
in fact I was wondering about this a while ago that why "ie" in kiedy is pronounced different than what it usually is and then I found a guide on Polish wiki that says that after k and g there is only softening but no j
would you pronounce "ie" in kiedy and biedy the same or different?
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Mam is how we say it in Ireland. Mom is American, Mum is British. All equally valid, so shouldn't mark it as wrong.
It's accepted with a typo. It didn't make it to the list we'd like to accept everywhere (mom/mother/mum/mama/ma). It's hard to imagine accepting every variant that is 'correct somewhere'.
Please don't start reporting it, I need to finish my thesis, I need some free time.
I accepted it here though, before you asked.
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well I wasn't planning to report mam anyway
now "ma" on the other hand... :D
Just a point of interest, "to bake" a cake is common usage in English, is the Polish verb "piec" used in the same way?
