"I met the soldiers there."
Translation:Ott találkoztam a katonákkal.
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"This" lesson is the "Time" lesson. I think -val/-vel is sneakily introduced here because time descriptions often use that suffix, but it feels like it's much too early for something as complicated as time words in the course. I'm not even sure if -val is going to be formally introduced later on. It's not very apparent down the tree. (I'm at "Preverbs" right now.)
I am going through the Magyar to English and this issue is actually all over the place. You don't talk TO someone, you talk WITH him. You don't have somebody's keys. Their keys are BY/WITH you.
It's actually a very important concept....and a neat way of thinking!
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The suffix here is -val/-vel. It means "with [obj]" in English, and it's sometimes hard to recognise because the 'v' assimilates to the preceding vowel:
- az autóval - with the car
- a házzal - with the house
- férfiak kalappal - men with hats
- a lánnyal - with the girl
- a barátommal - with my friend
and so on.
You cannot put another suffix after the accusative suffix -t. It's a so-called rag suffix and those determine the grammatical function that the noun has within the sentence, so each noun can only have one of those, and it always comes last in the word. Common ragok are the accusative suffix -t, the dative suffix -nak/nek, the spatial suffixes like -ba/-be, -ról/-ről, or -hoz/-hez/-höz, or this instrumental suffix -val/-vel.
Találkozik is an intransitive verb, with the literal meaning "to find oneself". It doesn't take direct objects, but instead "you find yourself with someone", which is expressed with -val/-vel in Hungarian.
Mercedes, that depends on what you want to do with the ott. Do you want to use it as your topic, talking about what happened at that place? Then put it at the beginning of the sentence. Do you want to talk about where you met the soldiers, putting your focus on the place? Then put it in front of the verb. Is it just general information? Place it somewhere after the verb.
- Ott a katonákkal talákoztam. - At that place I met the soldiers.
- A katonákkal ott találkoztam. - I met the soldiers there.
- A katonákkal találkoztam ott. - It's the soldiers that I met at that place.
Thank you.I enjoy your explanations,but,....Wherever I choose to put itt or ott Duo thinks otherwise and I get RED and i am getting tired.Trained teachers are more flexible.Other text books Hungarian for Foreigners are better planned .They teach the usual vocabulary one needs for daily like,not long and complicated sentences.It is not for teaching as L2.
As frustrating as it is, keep trying. I keep a notebook on vocabulary, grammar, and verbs, etc. For me, I see a sentence like this and am freaked out when I get burned. The interesting thing is that I keep going to the more advanced lessons and then this sentence clicks!