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"הילדים אוכלים את שניהם."

Translation:The children eat them both.

August 14, 2016



The children eat the both of them. Does not make any sense in English. Are the children eating other children, or both children are eating?


What does the chikdren eat, broccoli or spinach? The children eat them both.. ("the both of them" is to literal, the correct translation is "them both")

Plus there is a slang that express one's anger "אני אוכל אותך חי" (can also be said in either a second or third body, together or many, male or female) "I will eat you raw (literally: alive)", so... who knows? (;


Bunch of little cannibals!


Does שניהם only work as an object (them both) or can it be a subject too (they both)?


As in "they both went to..."? that works as well. שניהם literally means "the two of them"


Yep. You can find an example of this in Genesis 22:8, where it says "וַיֵּלְכ֥וּ שְׁנֵיהֶ֖ם יַחְדָּֽו" (both of them walked together).


How would one say "The children eat two of them (possibly out of many)" as opposed to "The children eat both of them"?


Well, הַילָדִים אוֹכְלִים שְׁנַ֫יִם מֵהֶם would convey the meaning two of them.


I always though the pronunciation was the common way to say "Ha-Ye-Le-Dim". Apparently "Hai- La-Dim" is actually the correct way to say it. Why does it drop the Ye?


Well, in biblical Hebrew nouns beginning with יְ, i.e. a jodh with the vowel shva, does not double its first consonant after the article, but loses one syllable: הַיְשׁוּעָה the victory /hay-šû-ʕâ/ (instead of הַיְּשׁוּעָה /hay-yə-šû-ʕâ/) or הַיְאוֹר the Nile /hay-ʔôr/. Exceptions occur, when the guttarals ע or ח follow: הַיְּעֵפִים the weary /hay-yə-ʕē-phîm/ or הַיְהוּדִים the Jews /ha-yə-hû-dîm/. Compare this to the same phenomenon in the inverted future (wayyiqtol-form), where the strong gemination is omitted under the same circumstance: וַיְקַטֵּל and he slew /way-qaṭ-ṭēl/ (not way-yə-...). הַיְלָדִים follows this pattern, but as much of the biblical intricacies of biblical Hebrew, this is mainly ignored in modern Hebrew.


To be clear, it's "La" and not "Le" either way. As for "Hai" vs. "Ha-ye", in quick speaking I'm not sure the difference is audible at all, so I'm not even sure if Israelis tend to say it one way or the other. For the formal difference and its grounds, see Ingeborg's answer.

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