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"Nem a szobába lépünk, hanem az ebédlőbe."

Translation:We are not stepping into the room, but into the dining room.

August 14, 2016



Should "szoba" be translated as "bedroom" in this context? Or as some other sort of room? The translation seems very awkward as it is.


I think, in this context, this "room" is closer to the living room. If we just finished dinner in the dining room, or in the kitchen, but keep sitting around the table, someone might say, "okay guys, let's go to the.... ". And Hungarian would frequently say "... a szobába". That is, out of this functional place and back into the room where we can hang around comfortably. The sitting room, the living room. A bedroom is also a "szoba", but the first association is the living room.


"Szoba" means room. Bedroom is "hálószoba".


yeah, but room is a broad term so this translation doesn't make sense. It's like saying I don't pick a flower but a rose.


It looks like ebédlő doesn't literally mean "dining room" but just "dining". Maybe this would be more clearly stated, "We are not stepping into the (sectioned-off) room, but into the dining area."


In English this is awkward without specifying which room. maybe bedroom instead of just 'room' here. English speakers would never make a point of not entering a room but entering the dining room.


True- but that's the English translation., which, I agree, is annoyong. It's sounds like it works from the Hungarian side of things, though, with maybe the living room implied, so that's the main thing!


Hanem az ebédlő is egy szobá...


But then there's "nappali" for living room. I'm with vvsey.


Why szobaba and not szobaban


I'm no expert, but as far as I know the ba/be ending implies movement- into, whilst the ban/ben ending simply means- in, without giving the idea of movement. Somebody tell me if I'm wrong, please :-) There are probably also some idiomatic uses of these endings, which are exceptions to the rule.


You are right, -ba/-be are the directional ones, -ban/-ben would mean walking around inside the room.

(About the idiomatic use: in slang and in some regions people often only use -ba/-be, ommitting the -n in either use cases. So you could hear it that way, but probably don't want to learn it that way.)

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